Posts by Rattigan350

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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

by BoogerMan in

this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

Rattigan350

ChildofGod89 said "i can prove biblically through scripture countless times Jesus is God"

No you can't.

Why do people get hung up on archangel? Angel is a messenger. Jesus is God's chief messenger.

Changing of John 1:1. Change from what to what? Jesus did not speak what was written in John 1:1 and I'm not a follower of the apostles, so if you adhere to John 1:1, you are a follower of men.

"There is so many scriptures that prove Jesus is god and Jesus himself claims this countless times."

No, on the contrary, Jesus in John 3:16 said that he is God son. So many times he is referred to as God's son. Peter in Matt 16 said that Jesus is God's son. In Luke 1:32 the angel told Mary "and will be called Son of the Most High". The Most High is Jehovah. Thus he is Jehovah's son.

Also if Jesus were God, then how could this be fulfilled ? Luke 2:22 "when the time came for purifying them according to the Law of Moses, they brought him up to Jerusalem to present him to Jehovah". If that baby was Jehovah, how could he be presented to Jehovah?

Jesus can't be God because he is the sacrifice that is presented to God, the high priest that presents that sacrifice. Jesus' being God would invalidate that.

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Can the Watchtower Society survive without time reports?

by DT in

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there has already been much discussion about how the watchtower society has declared in australia that going door to door is part of a personal ministry.

this seems to be a lame attempt to avoid liability considering that they require time reports and have formal meetings for field service at the kingdom hall.. this is a bit of a dilemma.

reporting time and formal meetings for field service are important methods of control, however it's not clear if the organization is willing or able to handle the potential liability that may come from this.. imagine what would happen if they lost these methods of control.

Rattigan350

What does this have to do with the Watchtower Society surviving? Everything is done through the CCJW

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Jehovah's Witnesses no longer count time. How is this news affecting moral and meeting attendance at local congregations?

by Balaamsass2 in

no more watchtower and awake mags every 2 weeks to place.

no private home book studies.

no more "essential" spiritual food meals 5x a week.

Rattigan350

The word is "morale" - ": the mental and emotional condition (as of enthusiasm, confidence, or loyalty) of an individual or group with regard to the function or tasks at hand"

Morals have to do with the adhering to right or wrong.

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Son out?

by Nantiques in

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our son joined the wts 20 years ago.

we, his parents and siblings are not jws.

he is now 41. he knew we were "opposers" from the beginning, and so we were pretty much shunned by him.

Rattigan350

People don't join the WTS. It is a printing company.

Long hair and a beard are not good things.

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2023-10-13-Announcement (Reporting Field Service)

by Atlantis in

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2023-10-13-announcements (reporting field service).

page 1. https://imgbox.com/96lgsfw4 .

page 2. https://imgbox.com/zynoa02m .

Rattigan350

Notice how it says they will no longer be asked to report. So everyone was always asked to report their field service and it was not a command?

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Real reasons behind this change?

by Gorb in

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just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.

a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?

maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?

Rattigan350

My feelings on this is like what Sansa said to Littlefinger in the episode The Mountain and the Viper as to why she helped him. Actually she didn't say it. I thought she said "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know." Littlefinger said "To gamble on the man you know than the strangers you don't."

We know this world and this system, but we don't know what things will be like in the new system. We just have painted pictures.

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Last minute repentance

by inbetween in

while most talk about the end of reporting for publishers, i think the doctrinal change is even bigger.. repentance after start of gt still possible?

what does that mean for the judgement message, they pushed a bit lately?.

will that be really just before armageddon?

Rattigan350

"Jesus forgave the criminal next to him on the other torture stake at the last minute."

Did he forgive him? What was there for him to be forgiven from?

He was a human born in sin, just because he was a thief did not make him any different than any other human that broke the 10 commandments.

Jesus said the guy would be resurrected in the kingdom, not because of any forgiveness, but because that was just what the plan was.

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Last minute repentance

by inbetween in

while most talk about the end of reporting for publishers, i think the doctrinal change is even bigger.. repentance after start of gt still possible?

what does that mean for the judgement message, they pushed a bit lately?.

will that be really just before armageddon?

Rattigan350

"Repentance after start of GT still possible?"

Repentance from what? Being in another religion?

Is that something to repent from?

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Disfellowshipped ones who die before the "last minute repentance"

by jonahstourguide in

hi all.. i've posted this in humour given that most of jw doctrine changes and flip flops are just so.. as stated, if there is now to be a 'last minute redemption'.what happens to the aforementioned folk?.

cannot wait for a explane-ation.

am i the only one giggling at this??

Rattigan350

Last minute of what?

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Time, times and half a time - nerd time

by Anony Mous in

so, the famous 607 calculation to 1914 involves the above prophecy.

the common explanation is that time is one unit, times is an unsubstantiated number of units.. to prove you can make it say any date, we must write it as a formula:.

date = t + nt + 0.5t where n >= 2. so simplified:.

Rattigan350

Why is the times of the Gentiles discussed on a Jehovah's Witness board as if discussing it will change history and God's plan?

It's like these ever recurring topics of beards and birthdays.