Posts by Rattigan350

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Apostacy!!!

by Bill Parker in

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i intend to show with this article that the man of lawlessness is the anti-christ and that the activity of this composite person is what constitutes the abomination of desolation.

this shows the anti-christ and the man of lawlessness to be one and the same composite person.

we have seen that the anti-christ exalts himself {not appointed by god} then we learned that the man of lawlessness takes his seat in the temple of god.

Rattigan350

Anony Mous - I'm not apologizing for a group. I just don't think that people need to make untruthful statements against them for their point.

"You say that the Pauline letters should be ignored by modern people, then aren’t you removing their content and thus doctrinal authority from the scriptures?"

Yes, I've come to the realization that the Pauline letters and the ones from the other apostles, should not be put on the level of prophets. They are no different than a letter from CT Russell or any other Christian commentator. The apostles are not the ones that stated the appointment of the FDS.

"Everything YOU believe about Christianity comes largely from Paul, if you want to reject them, then you should be championing Marcionism or certain forms of Gnostic Christianity."

Do you find it to be a problem that everything we believe about Christianity comes largely from Paul? So we are not Christians, but Paulites. Some belong to Paul, others belong to Apollos, etc. Come to realize that Paul was just an Israeli historian.

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WRONG Bible wordings #3

by BoogerMan in

3) 1 timothy 2:5 - for there is one god, and one mediator between god and men, a man, christ jesus.... wtbts: this is another example of not enough information being supplied by the apostle paul.

he should have written, "for there is..one mediator between god and only 144,000 men...".

the org's type/antitype of the exodus foreigners & the other sheep not being in the 2 covenants and not having jesus as their mediator is totally debunked by deuteronomy 29:10-15 & ezekiel 47:21-23. .

Rattigan350

Yes, Jesus is the corresponding ransom for all. But the ransom is not the same thing as the mediator.

Moses was a mediator of the old covenant, between Jehovah and Israel.

Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant between Jehovah and Spiritual Israel.

Aaron was the priest offering the sacrifices that atone for all, Israelite and foreigner. And then there were the sacrifices.

Jesus is the high priest offering the sacrifices for Spiritual Israel and the non-spiritual Israelites.

Jesus is the sacrifice or ransom that atones for all.

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Why is the Faithful Slave Now Admitting Ignorance?

by Vanderhoven7 in

dbm writes on the question: will sodomites get a resurrection?.

i guess it depends the date that you asked this question.

here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:.

Rattigan350

"The WT had a long period in which they felt it necessary to comment on all sorts of obscure topics."

Well they still do. The book study it was said that Jehovah is offended if we watch violent movies and TV programs. That is so petty to group everything and everyone's motives into one little statement. And what makes us special to where he pays attention to anything that we do? We are not that important.

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Apostacy!!!

by Bill Parker in

jw
friends

i intend to show with this article that the man of lawlessness is the anti-christ and that the activity of this composite person is what constitutes the abomination of desolation.

this shows the anti-christ and the man of lawlessness to be one and the same composite person.

we have seen that the anti-christ exalts himself {not appointed by god} then we learned that the man of lawlessness takes his seat in the temple of god.

Rattigan350

As for the original post: "I intend to show with this article that the “Man of Lawlessness” is the “Anti-Christ” and that the Activity of this composite person is what constitutes the “Abomination of Desolation.”"

Why do you or we care?

And you referenced writings from Paul's letters. Those letters were meant for the people back then, not us. They are not to be used for our authority, if they were, they would have been issued as a decree by the apostles and older men as a whole and distributed to everyone.

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Apostacy!!!

by Bill Parker in

jw
friends

i intend to show with this article that the man of lawlessness is the anti-christ and that the activity of this composite person is what constitutes the abomination of desolation.

this shows the anti-christ and the man of lawlessness to be one and the same composite person.

we have seen that the anti-christ exalts himself {not appointed by god} then we learned that the man of lawlessness takes his seat in the temple of god.

Rattigan350

You were not sure where to post this. But the question is why did you need to post this?

It has long been stated that Kingdom Hall events are open to the public and disfellowshipped people are the public and have the right to attend. Sounds like you are policing people's weddings. Let them be.

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Why is the Faithful Slave Now Admitting Ignorance?

by Vanderhoven7 in

dbm writes on the question: will sodomites get a resurrection?.

i guess it depends the date that you asked this question.

here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:.

Rattigan350

The AGM is not new light. They are just saying that we can't be dogmatic about specifics. The children at the flood or Sodom, or other times.

In the past it was said that they all are doomed, then later they said, let's not bury them so deep.

Now they are saying, Jehovah is more merciful to those who deserve mercy.

And Tonus is right. It is not important all to know or figure out who gets resurrected from those past times.

It's like looking to the Bible characters to be resurrected, what do we expect to learn from them? Will they have more memories brought back then from the day they died? Will they simply say they don't remember? If Daniel died at 100 years old, will he have memories of when he left for Babylon? Or will they all tell us that everything that was recorded about them is wrong?

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WRONG Bible wordings #3

by BoogerMan in

3) 1 timothy 2:5 - for there is one god, and one mediator between god and men, a man, christ jesus.... wtbts: this is another example of not enough information being supplied by the apostle paul.

he should have written, "for there is..one mediator between god and only 144,000 men...".

the org's type/antitype of the exodus foreigners & the other sheep not being in the 2 covenants and not having jesus as their mediator is totally debunked by deuteronomy 29:10-15 & ezekiel 47:21-23. .

Rattigan350

Paul had no idea or concept of the 144,000 as it was not given to God's prophet John until decades later.

Paul understood about a heavenly Jerusalem. And since those in Paul's time, the majority of which would be anointed, he could properly says Jesus was the mediator between God and men (and women).

People need to remember, that something said in the present tense in the Bible, does not always extend to later times.

Paul is the one that teaches about the two covenants as Jeremiah taught about a new covenant.

Why do people get all worked up about whether Jesus is their mediator? A belief or a teaching can't change the reality of whether he is or not. So just study whether he is or not.

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Pornography in the Marriage

by LostintheFog1999 in

the magazine that they are studying in the congregation this month has an article at the back about how pornography in a marriage could damage the relationship.. there's one piece of advice that sounds rather scary, the wt suggests that the couple should "consider asking an elder with whom you are both comfortable to sit in and guide your discussions for a time.".

how many of you would want an elder present in your home while you and your partner discussed your personal sexual cravings and the type of porn videos being watched?.

Rattigan350

enoughisenough said "because some of the "brothers" really get off on that sort of thing. There was a brother in a hall I went to who loved to give talks about sex."

I can imagine that there are cops like that too. They prefer to work in the sex crimes unit because they can legally possess and view videos and pictures in their investigations. Somewhat similar to the drug cops keeping some of the drugs for their own use.

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Convention Blast

by Zilgee in

jw convention blast in kerala india.

one died.

Rattigan350

I find it odd that the jw.borg report says "Our thoughts and prayers are with all those affected by this tragedy."

It is odd that they would use a worldly phrase like that.

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Pornography in the Marriage

by LostintheFog1999 in

the magazine that they are studying in the congregation this month has an article at the back about how pornography in a marriage could damage the relationship.. there's one piece of advice that sounds rather scary, the wt suggests that the couple should "consider asking an elder with whom you are both comfortable to sit in and guide your discussions for a time.".

how many of you would want an elder present in your home while you and your partner discussed your personal sexual cravings and the type of porn videos being watched?.

Rattigan350

What is the definition of pornography for them? Naked pictures or videos of one's spouse? Sports Illustrated swimsuit issues? Shows like Game of Thrones? So many ways to judge people there.