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  "How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. beliefs

  simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

  a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

  b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

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  Same as Noah's. 40 days and 40 nights
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  Only baptised JWs will make it?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

  then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

  most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

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  They like to use Zeph 2:3

  "Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger."

  It's the only place in the Bible where the word "probably" appears which makes it uncertain here. Seeking Jehovah, being meek, observing his decrees, seeking righteousness and meekness just isn't enough because that's just probably. So you are never on the safe side of the balance.
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  Only baptised JWs will make it?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

  then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

  most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

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  This is all the carrot on the stick. My dad thinks that only baptized Witnesses or ones studying will be saved. People need to attend meetings and field service. He believes that because that is what he has been told over the years. He has been told that by the ones who are leading the program. This whole belief is just a motivator to make people attend the meetings and be active.
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  John 5:27 and Harners thesis

  by Blotty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  conclusion to harners thesis: https://digilander.libero.it/domingo7/h7.jpg.

  in 1973 a scholar by the name of philip b harner published an article in the journal of biblical literature that would be "revolutionary" he concluded that anarthorous predicate nouns preceeding the verb were primarily qualitative in nature.. in my view harner was correct, though he didn't agree with the "a god" rendering he also disliked the "god" rendering in john 1:1c providing an alternative which bibles like the net have paraphrased (to my knowledge).

  one he didn't cover in his thesis was john 5:27 i would say this "authoratative" why?

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  I agree with Harner because the "God" people are not flexible to the possible meanings. And they don't understand the whole Bible and think that words matter.
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  JWs & Guilt Trips

  by skeeter1 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the watchtower is a manipulator.

  one of the tools they use is guilt, and they use it via the "guilt trip.

  " just so we are clear, a guilt trip is:.

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  In the 2023 RC, Symposium "With Patience Put Up with One Another in Love - Infirm or Elderly Family Members Speaker says "When we're a caregiver we might feel guilty. "
  

  "As Jehovah's Witnesses we always want to do our best in Jehovah's service, but now because of all the extra work we are doing caring for family members, we're emotionally, mentally and physically spent and that doesn't leave us much time for the congregation or the ministry and that leads to feelings of guilt."
  
  Doing our best in Jehovah's service is one thing, but when people feel guilty for missing meetings or ministry because they are helping others; they've learned too much guilt in their regular JW life.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  Why would he feel the need to redub the creation videos with his own narration?

  That's just nuts.
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  JWs unrecognisable compared to my grandfathers time

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.

  he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.

  he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.

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  "(Acts 1:7) “It does not belong to you (the "anointed") to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction."

  No, he was not referring to the anointed. The "you" was the ones he was speaking to.

  I don't like it when people take something that Jesus or the apostles say in their present and apply to the people of today.
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  "How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

  a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

  b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

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  Blondie, I'm surprised that the Society hasn't figured out the creative days. The creative days in Gen 1 are 24 hours long. However the time covered in creation within those creative days was millions of years. Like a TV episode is an hour long, but the time covered within that episode can be years. (Unless it is the show 24)
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  Regional Convention Attendance

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  elder friend of mine texted me asking what my rc attendance was 2 weeks ago (family and i streamed it since wife is not well).

  he told me that his rc in the jersey city assembly hall last weekend was low.

  co told them that around 2600 were the total from 16+ congs that were assigned.

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  Remember how in 2020 they put cardboard cutouts of people in the stands in baseball and other sports.

  They should do that at the assemblies so it looks like more are there and the seats are saved.

  That's one way to save seats. Put cutouts of your family in the seats.
  
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  Anyone know what this sculpture is of the "torture stake?"

  by charity7 in

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  2. beliefs

  hey guys!

  i'm new on this site and am a non jw here married to a jw.

  my husband's family are active members and they daily post articles on facebook from jw.org which i know is meant for me to see and read.

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  They could have flayed him and hung him like this