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  The Debate: Do JW's Need Respect?

  by Mindchild in

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  this thread will hopefully serve as the platform for a friendly debate about the issue of how much respect the watchtower society deserves from ex-jehovah's witnesses.

  do we blast the hell out of the borg and don't let a kind word in edgewise?

  do we acknowledge that they have done some things right and (shudder) even good?

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  tyydyy

  I like the prosecutions use of the Union Carbide disaster. I do not think it is a direct parallel but close enough.

  For us to show respect to such an life-negative organization that is still actively and potentially dangerous to millions of lives, is like the wounded survivors of the Union Carbide massacre to return to their homes and tell their friends, family and neighbors that we are so grateful to have this Pesticide plant in our neighborhood. It is good for the community. It provides jobs, it gives people meaning in their lives, and it is doing a good public service.

  Ask people working at that facility before the disaster and you would find that the majority did feel the plant was good for the community. They were happy that it did provide jobs. They did feel it was doing a good public service. Once the corrections were made then it once again gained respect as an organization. To the same level?? Probably not. But they still do provide jobs and do a good public service to this day. Do we call for the End of Union Carbide? No. We call for safety corrections to be made.
  The WTS has made adjustments on the Blood issue and in due time it will not be an issue. In the meantime the Witnesses have had great success using alternative blood products.

  TimB
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  Who do you love now?????

  by Sky in

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  i was brand new when this post was up.. now i wanna know who everyone loves, so i kow who you're talking about!.

  kisses!.

  sky

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  Andi,

  All of them. [8>]

  TimB
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  The Debate: Do JW's Need Respect?

  by Mindchild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread will hopefully serve as the platform for a friendly debate about the issue of how much respect the watchtower society deserves from ex-jehovah's witnesses.

  do we blast the hell out of the borg and don't let a kind word in edgewise?

  do we acknowledge that they have done some things right and (shudder) even good?

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  tyydyy

  PART ONE: Scriptural Support for Disrespecting the WTS

  I don't recognize the Bible as any kind of authority in these matters. One can use the Bible to show precedence for any arguement and that is a totally different subject.

  For example: Look at the example of Bear that killed 40 children when they called a "prophet of god" an old bald head.

  TimB
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  The Debate: Do JW's Need Respect?

  by Mindchild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread will hopefully serve as the platform for a friendly debate about the issue of how much respect the watchtower society deserves from ex-jehovah's witnesses.

  do we blast the hell out of the borg and don't let a kind word in edgewise?

  do we acknowledge that they have done some things right and (shudder) even good?

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  tyydyy

  One can also extend this same principle to rank and file members of the Witnesses who may be totally ignorant of these policies and would likewise be shocked to discover these atrocities. Such individuals are not culpable in the same way because of due innocence.

  Thanks I'm glad we agree on that. The individuals are not responsible for the wrongdoing of the WTS unless they know the practices are wrong.

  TimB
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  The Debate: Do JW's Need Respect?

  by Mindchild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread will hopefully serve as the platform for a friendly debate about the issue of how much respect the watchtower society deserves from ex-jehovah's witnesses.

  do we blast the hell out of the borg and don't let a kind word in edgewise?

  do we acknowledge that they have done some things right and (shudder) even good?

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  tyydyy

  Your honor,
  If we are going have orderly proceedings we really can't have objections raised to comments made in the opening statements. Especially the day after. This could take forever. We should raise objections in a timely manner and move on to the next point.

  I am filing a formal protest to the sustained objections on these grounds.

  In the earlier objections I believe my words were taken out of context and an improper inference was made. I did not suggest that the WTS was a charitable organization. I merely sited those examples because I knew they had controversy and yet they do some good for society. I went on to show some of the good that the WTS does for society. I don't think I said or implied anywhere that the WTS was a CHARITABLE organization.
  

  We need to look at the good that the religion does as well as the bad. In the process, we need to keep in mind that every organization has bad in it. At what point does the bad in an organization justify withholding respect?

  Before we begin looking at the Witnesses, let's keep in mind that there are many organizations that do many good things for people but are still involved in scandals concerning how people are treated, how the money is handled and the ethics/motives of the leaders. Some that come to mind are, The Salvation Army, The United Way, Unicef, The Red Cross...etc. Do we withhold our respect from these organizations and ignore the good that they do because there is some corruption? That of course is a personal decision but most people respect these organizations for the good that they are attempting to do in spite of the controversy.

  Now for the Witnesses. What good have they done as a Religion

  
  

  I think it fair to say that the JW’s did fight in court to secure freedom of speech but you should also remember that same freedom gave us massive amounts of pornography in this country as well.[quote]

  Are you saying that our constitutional freedom of speech is a bad thing? Are you saying that pornography is a bad thing? If you are, then you are talking about a totally different subject, that frankly, I don't think belongs in this court. I OBJECT to the inference that the freedom to worship and preach is somehow remotely comparable to pornography.

  [quote]we all know that the JW family values are simply programming

  Excuse me, but we don't all know this. Let's see some evidence. I would say that all family values are a result of programming. So is putting your children to bed at 8:00 PM. We cannot use the word programming like a dirty word unless we're talking about something dirty. Besides it is not a common practice for preteen children to be shunned.

  TimB
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  Who do you love now?????

  by Sky in

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  i was brand new when this post was up.. now i wanna know who everyone loves, so i kow who you're talking about!.

  kisses!.

  sky

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  tyydyy

  Ok.......
  Xena, Xena, Xena....well she knows it already but I just had to say it.

  Tatiana,
  I don't know what it is about you April, but Oooo La La! I know you're spoken for but Damn Girl you are HOT!

  Noidea,
  you are one crazy hot woman in the chat room. I guess that means when the lights go off...Look Out!

  BillyGoat,
  Mmmmmmmmm Mmmmmmmmmmm Mmmmmmmmm Andi, you are so sweeeeet. I just want to pinch your cheeks.

  GoldDustWoman,
  Strong and all woman....Love you......

  WonderWoman77,
  Letting me see what a real woman feels when she's gazing into the eyes of another.....Wow! Thats Hot!

  VeniceIT,
  I have had lunch with a woman Judge before and it did help my case. But I get the feeling that if we had lunch.....We wouldn't be discussing the case. I still have this thing about the robe...

  Sky,
  My email is connected if you want someone to look at your picture and determine if it would damage anyone's sensitive eyes.

  Valentine,
  That woman has so much fire inside......I would love to see just how hot she is. And really mean that Tina......(((((((sizzle))))))))

  Prisca,
  I don't care if you do or don't look like Sandra B., I think you are too cool. A little fiesty but then that can be a good thing..

  Bitter Mango,
  Baby, you are torturing all of us guy's on here. What am I saying. You're torturing all the women too. To be so young and yet so......so.......so....I can't even come up with a word that describes how sexy you are...But you know it anyway. Shame on me for what I'm thinking!

  Lilacs,
  Anyone who cares as much as you must be an Awsome woman....Tasty!

  Ladonna,
  Whoa girl! You are really getting into this chatting scene. I get the feeling you are gonna make several men very happy. I get the feeling there are several men already happy. I'm one of them.

  Harmony,
  Where have you been, Babe?

  MrMoe,
  Your picture just causes so much personal growth, you must become and inspirational speaker. At least a supermodel.

  Scully,
  Keep your distance! I think you'd give me a heart attack if you actually touched me. Much less spanked.

  Julie,
  I would love to see you smile and give you a big hug. (I would hope that hug would last at least 15 min.)

  Safe4Kids,
  If love is 90 percent mental....someone give me a cigarette!

  Think41Self,
  You and your sister just in a mudpit with me. What more can I say. I know it redlines the Icck guage for you but you can't blame me for fantasizing.

  I get the feeling I'm leaving out someone realllly important. Damn that short term memory loss.

  TimB
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  Favorite movie line?

  by gilwarrior in

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  what is your favorite movie line?

  please mention the movie line and why it is the best.. my favorite movie line:.

  "ever since i was a kid...i always wanted to be a gangster.".

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  tyydyy

  You met me at a very strange time in my life Final line in FIGHT CLUB.

  Why? Reminds me of the transition from the JW's. I have actually said those words.

  TimB
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  The Debate: Do JW's Need Respect?

  by Mindchild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread will hopefully serve as the platform for a friendly debate about the issue of how much respect the watchtower society deserves from ex-jehovah's witnesses.

  do we blast the hell out of the borg and don't let a kind word in edgewise?

  do we acknowledge that they have done some things right and (shudder) even good?

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  tyydyy

  Tyydyy's statement to the press on the courthouse steps:

  I would just like to make it known that the arguements I present here do not necesarily reflect my personal views. I merely present the evidence and arguements to give everyone acting as the jury to come to an informed decision.

  No more questions please. Please. I must go.

  TimB
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  The Debate: Do JW's Need Respect?

  by Mindchild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread will hopefully serve as the platform for a friendly debate about the issue of how much respect the watchtower society deserves from ex-jehovah's witnesses.

  do we blast the hell out of the borg and don't let a kind word in edgewise?

  do we acknowledge that they have done some things right and (shudder) even good?

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  tyydyy

  I cannot produce any evidence at this time (my personal WTS library is dwindling) showing that the WTS encouraged anyone to seek professional help. I do remember an article several yrs ago noting that medication is a viable means for treating depression along with encouragement from friends, family and congregation elders and prayer.
  I would hope the court would allow someone else to research the articles on this subject. (Could someone who has access to the WTS CD look this up please)

  TimB
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  The Debate: Do JW's Need Respect?

  by Mindchild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread will hopefully serve as the platform for a friendly debate about the issue of how much respect the watchtower society deserves from ex-jehovah's witnesses.

  do we blast the hell out of the borg and don't let a kind word in edgewise?

  do we acknowledge that they have done some things right and (shudder) even good?

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  tyydyy

  On the subject of mental illness within the WTS. The WTS has done much to educate the public and the rank and file members of the symptoms and treatments of mental illness. This might cause a increase in recognition and subsequent treatment of the illnesses resulting in a larger percentage of WTS members recieving treatment in the form of office visits and medication.

  TimB