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Here in Texas there are a lot of men who like to where cowboy boots as dress shoes. I was told that I couldn't get on stage at the ASSembly if I was wearing boots. Imagine that. There is a "higher" standard at the ASSemblies and CONventions. You rarely saw anyone with a mustache giving a part on the big stage.
TimB
did you hear about the guy from alabama who passed away and left his.
entire estate to his beloved widow -- but she can't touch it 'til she's 14?
how do you know when you're staying in a kentucky hotel?
April,
I'm from Arkansas and I must say.......Have you been to Arkansas before because you nailed it. :)
Did you hear about the hillbilly that found out that his new bride was a virgin? He went to his dad and asked him what to do. His dad told him ..."Take her back, Son! If she's not good enough for her own family she's not good enough for ours!"
Tim
looks like it's just disappeared.
no more posts from danni.
no more posts from mymy.. just to add my own little tidbit here, has anyone heard of a park hills (or parkhill) congregation?
Thanks for your candor Dave,
Apology accepted. You are still a cool guy.
TimB
i notice when i am in chat a lot of people take "smoke" breaks.
i wonder how many of ya'll took up smoking after the left the org?
personally i have tried a ciggy a time or two but didn't really take to it...if i am going to smoke something i want it to make me...uuummm happy
Yeah I've smoked since being out but I think I'm done with cigs anyway. They just give me a headache. Not to mention they constrict blood vessels. At my age you don't want any of those tiny but oh so important blood vessels to shrinkage. No sir, Don't like shrinkage.
TimB
hi, folks.
gravedancer has invited us to a discussion of a subject upon which rests the credibility of all faith.
i'm responding by posting a 3 part series reflecting some of the research and thought the i've put into it for some decades now.
Thank you JT,
Those were AWESOME!!!!!!
I have been trying to find the perfect analogy and you have provided that for me. Maybe some christians will get the message. ........NAH Probably not.
TimB
hi, folks.
gravedancer has invited us to a discussion of a subject upon which rests the credibility of all faith.
i'm responding by posting a 3 part series reflecting some of the research and thought the i've put into it for some decades now.
Can a woman's heart, faith, and trust stem from the same source as gang rape and murder?
Yes! In fact, everything stemmed from the same source at one point. If my brother was a murderer, that wouldn't make me a murderer just because I had the same source. There are many reasons for why people do bad things and I cannot accept that the reason is some big bad spirit named Satan made them do it.
TimB
hi, folks.
gravedancer has invited us to a discussion of a subject upon which rests the credibility of all faith.
i'm responding by posting a 3 part series reflecting some of the research and thought the i've put into it for some decades now.
Lone Wolf,
Are you saying that in order to keep peace in my house, I'll have to look the other way when my daughter does something wrong. When she decides to sneak drugs into my house and invite her friends to join her, I should just stand back and watch? Like God did?
TimB
hi, folks.
gravedancer has invited us to a discussion of a subject upon which rests the credibility of all faith.
i'm responding by posting a 3 part series reflecting some of the research and thought the i've put into it for some decades now.
Thank you for that post Lone Wolf,
I started out nodding my head in agreement .....until...you got to the part where you started making illogical assumptions and analogies that make the wrong assumptions.
I do give my child the free will to do the things she wants to do. (she is 7 by the way) I do though, periodically, search her room. How could any parent that loves his child do that? Doesn't that mean that I don't love her or trust her? No and Yes. No, it doesn't mean that I don't love her and YES, it means that I don't completely trust her. Is there a conflict and contradiction in my statement? I don't think so. I give my daughter the respect, free will and privacy that I think she needs to develop into a healthy adult. ON THE OTHER HAND.......If my daughter were to put someone elses life and happiness in danger, I would not hesitate to stop her by ANY means possible. I make no claims of being PERFECT, yet I am capable of caring for others that aren't even my daughter. I don't care how long she's been good. If I knew of an attempt on her part to lead someone down a path of certain destruction, or even possible destruction, I would instantly stop it. I can accept the premise that God didn't know what Satan was about to do. I can even accept the premise that God wanted to see what the reaction of the humans would be. I absolutely CANNOT accept the fact that a God that possesses at least the same capability to love and care for strangers that I do, would allow the humans to make a fatal mistake. A mistake that would not only doom them, but their children and almost every human born afterward to a life of struggle, suffering, pain and death.
When you have suffered excruciating pain, like a massive burn, you get a taste of what others have suffered. Not just some historical figures that appear in our minds like characters in a novel. No, people like you and me, women and children who have suffered lifetimes of unspeakable tortures, rapes, daily abuse and psychological pummeling. These people have become real to me. They are not pawns in some GAME. They are not meaningless colatoral casualties on some theocratic chess board. They might as well be my own children. Your analogy justifying the human suffering because God wanted to show his heretofore faithful servant that he trusted him holds about as much water as an upsidedown cup.
It really bothers me when people claim to use logic and then turn around and use analogies. Analogies that are then misapplied. Christians are the best at twisting analogies. You can come up with hypothetical scenarios all day long, and I'd love to hear them. But...
Your postulates are not acceptable to me. I can accept the assumption that some kind of god exists because "how did we get here?". I cannot accept your second assumption that there is an opposer. I can accept the POSSIBILITY but there are also other possibilities.
Yet the existence of both is central to the credibility of nearly all faithYou see... you are assuming that everyone has a faith. Not so. Most if not all societies have followed their leaders in this matter of faith but individuals who think for themselves will not have faith in something that cannot be proven or at least measured.
When you base an arguement on a false or at least presumptuous assumption, you lose the interest of those who choose not to blindly follow.
TimB
i am definately insane although i dont think it can all be blamed on the knowledge i've obtained recently and trying to deal with the aftermath.
at least part of the reason is probably genetic.
so where are the angels of mercy for people with incurable insanity?
Hey there flower,
I know just what your thinking. I was there for a while after I left the borg. Some of the feelings you are describing I felt too. I hope you just have fun with it right now and don't take things too seriously. You have to be able to let the deep stuff go sometimes. Just think about trivial things. Start reading the fluff posts. Stay away from the posts that make you think too much about your past life. Think about kids playing together. Think about how the air smells first thing in the morning. Think about how much you love your children. We all feel have felt like we're losing control of our mental capacities after leaving the Borg. We wondered it we did the right thing. After all we were happier then. Right? Go down to your local community college or YWCA and sign up for a simple course. Some courses are only one hr a week but they can help you relearn your social skills. You need to mix with "worldly" people to discover that they are good people too.
Hang in there. You are loved here even if we don't know you that well. Even if we haven't had a beer with you. We do care about you.
TimB
according to webster?.
deism- a movement or system of thought advocating natural religion based on human reason rather than revelation emphasizing morality and in the 18th century denying the interferance of the creator with the laws of the universe.
has anyone studied at this school of thought????.
Hey Valis,
Do ya think God is trying to speak to you through Webster's Dictionary? It's possible. I mean on the next page you have:
Delaware
delicate
delicious
delight
delightful
Delilah
delinquent
Say all those words in one sentence and you have a great prophecy.
TimB
