cofty, learn some manners before you embarass yourself with your haughty hastiness. You're old enough to know better.
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why would the creator of the universe ,according to the bible ,converse ,either by angels,prophets,or in one or two occassions personally with humans centuries ago , and lets face it they are nowhere near as educated and enlightened as the present generation , and not communicate with the present generation.?
shoudnt their be more reason for him to communicate with his creation today than ever before ?
and using the excuse that jesus life and experiences does not cover it.jesus never wrote anything down.the scriptures themselves say everything he said could not be recorded because it would fill volumes ???
cofty, learn some manners before you embarass yourself with your haughty hastiness. You're old enough to know better.
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why would the creator of the universe ,according to the bible ,converse ,either by angels,prophets,or in one or two occassions personally with humans centuries ago , and lets face it they are nowhere near as educated and enlightened as the present generation , and not communicate with the present generation.?
shoudnt their be more reason for him to communicate with his creation today than ever before ?
and using the excuse that jesus life and experiences does not cover it.jesus never wrote anything down.the scriptures themselves say everything he said could not be recorded because it would fill volumes ???
Cantleave I was being sarcastic, of course.
What i mean is that this isn't a black or white subject. You cannot accuse the believers of all sorts of intellectual dishonesties, fallacies and hubris, when if fact, the practical consequences of many of the evolutionary theories - namely social darwinism - are just equally dangerous and dishonest, and dehumanizing.
I actually smile when i read that our capacity for empathy and compassion is actually rooted on a desguised form of selfishness - that we only appear to be selfless and compassionate and empathic because we're smart enough to realize that we can gain a competitive advantage out of it. To me that amounts to the same as "twisting the Scriptures" ...if you know what I mean.
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why would the creator of the universe ,according to the bible ,converse ,either by angels,prophets,or in one or two occassions personally with humans centuries ago , and lets face it they are nowhere near as educated and enlightened as the present generation , and not communicate with the present generation.?
shoudnt their be more reason for him to communicate with his creation today than ever before ?
and using the excuse that jesus life and experiences does not cover it.jesus never wrote anything down.the scriptures themselves say everything he said could not be recorded because it would fill volumes ???
I'm happy that evolution have solved that problem for you, cantleave.
And that has made you completely insensitive to it, because, after all, those are the losers on the intra-species evolutionary competition for resources, the driving force behind adaptation. Social darwinists must smile when they see such photos, because it constitutes scientific evidence of the mechanism for determining the best-suited group; politically, economically and ecologically.
Being a darwinist, I suppose your conscience driven by evolucionary tenets isn't hurt at all. After all, it's the survival of the fittest in operation.
It all makes perfect sense when explained by evolution.
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this week my wife was hospitalized and received surgery.
we are happy she is allright now.
thank god!.
Best wishes for your wife, Gorby!
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i've just published a new article on my website.. it's called: "daniel and the future of the 'saints of the most holy' - a commentary on daniel chapter 7".
i'd like to draw your attention in particular to the identity of the fourth beast since i depart clearly from the more or less consensual explanation that is about rome and the antichrist.
i won't waste time with that it isn't, though, and focus on what it is.
Separation,
I agree, the Scriptures point to Christ.
Still, what is written is written for a reason and I aim to find out just what it is, if nothing else, just to get rid of the burden that everything in the past must necessarily mirror into the future. I'm not a preterist, but christian life is much more free when the burden of "prophetic types" and "multiple fulfillments" of prophecies is done away with. Of course, there are things still to be fulfilled ahead of us, but I suspect, as I keep on researching, that much of what we read in the scriptures already had its fulfillment. That's why I'll keep on researching ... also because we must "make sure of all things". ...
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i've just published a new article on my website.. it's called: "daniel and the future of the 'saints of the most holy' - a commentary on daniel chapter 7".
i'd like to draw your attention in particular to the identity of the fourth beast since i depart clearly from the more or less consensual explanation that is about rome and the antichrist.
i won't waste time with that it isn't, though, and focus on what it is.
AB
The thread isn't about the Daniel image ...rather is about Daniel Chapter 7. Some here believe that there's a direct relationship with the statue of Daniel 2. Since I haven't got my head around the subject, I won't comment on it for now.
On my site there's a section to comment on the articles. But it's not on the same page as the articles themselves. And I admit, I take some time to create the entry for each article. My bad. I should create it the moment I publish an article. I gotta get more efficient :P
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so here's part i (of iii) of an in-depth analysis of the biblical character of lot, examining the contradictory depictions offered in the genesis 13/19 vs 2nd peter's assessment.
i still need to pare the article down, as it's way, way too much info, likely unnecessary to make a relatively simple point.
it's important to be thorough, esp.
It appears to me that Peter's comment about Lot's "righteousness" stems simply from the contrast with the "wickedness" of the Sodomites.
Genesis 13:13 - " Now the people of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD."
In his own merit, Lot left a lot to be desired; But in contrast with the wickedness of the Sodomites, he could stand out as "righteous".
As for how could Peter claim that Lot " by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds" (2 Peter 2:8 NASB), I think that Peter was extrapolating. Perhaps he saw in the accusation of the Sodomites to Lot: " This one came here as a foreigner, but he's acting like a judge!" (Genesis 19:9) Peter possibly interpreted this as an indication that Lot perhaps tried to moralize the people of Sodom; in that sense, he could be regarded as "righteous" by comparison.
Nevertheless, your analysis is spot on about Lot's character.
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i've just published a new article on my website.. it's called: "daniel and the future of the 'saints of the most holy' - a commentary on daniel chapter 7".
i'd like to draw your attention in particular to the identity of the fourth beast since i depart clearly from the more or less consensual explanation that is about rome and the antichrist.
i won't waste time with that it isn't, though, and focus on what it is.
No agenda here.
I apologize for presuming you had one.
Your observation is fair ...somehow when one finds out that the "Organization" is wrong, then it's as if we really really really want to make sure it's wrong before we leave - like determining if there is no redeeming quality left. I presume this has to do with the deeply engraved fear that there is no salvation outside the WTS Organization. One wants to make sure no such mistake is ever made again.
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i've just published a new article on my website.. it's called: "daniel and the future of the 'saints of the most holy' - a commentary on daniel chapter 7".
i'd like to draw your attention in particular to the identity of the fourth beast since i depart clearly from the more or less consensual explanation that is about rome and the antichrist.
i won't waste time with that it isn't, though, and focus on what it is.
Separation of Powers
Are you fluent in ancient Hebrew or Aramaic?
If not, are you fluent in ancient greek or greek used before the 1st century i.e. used in the translation of the Septuagint?
I'm not a scholar, nor a specialist in linguistics. So, the answer is no / no. I rely on authors like Vine, Thayer or Strong to give me the sense of the meanings conveyed by the original words.
I'm sure your question has a purpose, so go ahead...
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i've just published a new article on my website.. it's called: "daniel and the future of the 'saints of the most holy' - a commentary on daniel chapter 7".
i'd like to draw your attention in particular to the identity of the fourth beast since i depart clearly from the more or less consensual explanation that is about rome and the antichrist.
i won't waste time with that it isn't, though, and focus on what it is.
Daniel 7:23
"He gave me this explanation: 'The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it.
Remember that the four animals are seen from the perspective of the "holy people", Israel. Although there are more empires on earth, the prophecy only concerns itself with those who interact significantly with the "saints of the Most Holy", the specially cleansed people of Yahweh, the Israelites.
The expression "on earth" and "whole earth" should not be cause for misleading. The aramaic term used "ara" is the equivalent to the hebrew "erets"; Among many uses (including soil, ground, the abode under the sky, the underworld), Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old Testament Words notes:
"[erets] , may be used geographically, i.e., to identify a territory: “And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity” (Gen. 11:28). , sometimes bears a political connotation and represents both a given political territory and the people who live there: “And there was no bread in all the land; for the famine was very sore, so that the land of Egypt and all the land of Canaan fainted by reason of the famine” (Gen. 47:13). Not only the “land” languished, but (and especially) the people suffered.Next, in several passages this noun has both geographical and political overtones and identifies the possession or inheritance of a tribe. This emphasis is in Num. 32:1: “Now the children of Reuben and the children of Gad had a very great multitude of cattle: and when they saw the land of Jazer, and the land of Gilead, that, behold, the place was a place for cattle....”
Therefore, since the special subjects of the wrath of the fourth beast are the Israelites, then the "earth" and "whole earth" are the land of Israel, or Palestine. The Seleucid empire, like a terrifying beast with iron teeth, would "devour the whole earth", or ravish the territory of Israel. The "iron teeth" are symbolic of a predatorial brute force, barbaric cruelty and unbreakable merciless.
Josephus, in Wars of the Jews, book 1, recounts that the armies of Antiochus IV Epiphanes made use of Elephants with towers on top. Daniel J. Harrington, author of the commentary on First and Secon Maccabees, wrote: "Antiochus gave Lysias half of his army and the elephants and ordered him to destroy the people of Judea and Jerusalem and to resettle the land with foreigners". What the Jews faced with the Seleucid empire was a devastation of higher magnitude than that caused by the Babylonians [who ravished Jerusalem and exiled the people] or the Persians [who, by Haman, plotted to exterminate the Jews in Persia but the plot was averted with the help of the King himself]; This time the threat was more terryfing, for the threat of genocide and erasure from the face of the earth was very real and was on the field of battle. Some authors claim that Antiochus IV Epiphanes slained and sold to slavery more Jews than Nabuchadnezzar II had done.
No wonder this "fourth beast" was portrayed as the most terrifying of all the beasts!
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