What can I say...? I don't agree with that attitude.
Uber-zealous, holier-than-thou witnesses don't resonate well with me, I guess.
Eden
i have been inactive for 5 years now.
lately i am being treated more and more as if i were disfellowshipped, which i am not.
do any of you know of anything, in writing, that is encouraging members to curtail any and all association with former members who are no longer active?.
What can I say...? I don't agree with that attitude.
Uber-zealous, holier-than-thou witnesses don't resonate well with me, I guess.
Eden
i have been inactive for 5 years now.
lately i am being treated more and more as if i were disfellowshipped, which i am not.
do any of you know of anything, in writing, that is encouraging members to curtail any and all association with former members who are no longer active?.
Cantleave: If you were inactive do you think you would be invited to a congregation get-together? No you would be shunned.
Depends a lot on how the congregation perceives you.
If you're perceived as inactive and spiritually dangerous (i.e, involved in apostasy or questionabe conduct), then you wouldn't get invited. However if the reasons why one is inactive are perceived as of other kind (depression, illness, lack of motivation) and they feel that associating with the congregation might be of help, then such person wouldn't be necessarily ignored.
Eden
i have been inactive for 5 years now.
lately i am being treated more and more as if i were disfellowshipped, which i am not.
do any of you know of anything, in writing, that is encouraging members to curtail any and all association with former members who are no longer active?.
The www.jw.org website is clear to say that people who fade into inactivity are not to be shunned. This information is current.
Now, if they say something and then act differently ....
Eden
been going nuts looking for this.. i am sure i have read, and probably saved, a quote by them about not being false prophets but i am buggered if i can find it anywhere in search, google or my own pc.. can you help?.
i think its 2009 but not sure, where they have the line 'never have we said ''jehovah has said'' when ...'.
a link or pdf or scan or cut n paste, etc would be great!.
marked
i bethelite sent this email out - can't really give out names.
we wrote these figures as quickly as possible, but could not keep up 100%).
you get to check these figures out when you get your 2014 yearbook.
it would be interesting to analyse the progression of the ratio newly baptized vs average publishers as well as newly baptized vs. bible studies.
Eden
matthew 19:28: "and jesus said to them, "truly i say to you, that you who have followed me, in the regeneration when the son of man will sit on his glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of israel.
" (nasb).
the context shows that jesus was talking to his twelve apostles.
interesting point anonymous.
"out of" the 12 tribes, and not the 12 tribes in itself.
Eden
matthew 19:28: "and jesus said to them, "truly i say to you, that you who have followed me, in the regeneration when the son of man will sit on his glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of israel.
" (nasb).
the context shows that jesus was talking to his twelve apostles.
Well, that's a variable that effects the final answer. I was hoping to hear different views on that as well.
Are they the natural Jews? The 'spiritual Israel'? Who?
Eden
matthew 19:28: "and jesus said to them, "truly i say to you, that you who have followed me, in the regeneration when the son of man will sit on his glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of israel.
" (nasb).
the context shows that jesus was talking to his twelve apostles.
Matthew 19:28: " And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." (NASB)
The context shows that Jesus was talking to his twelve apostles. if they were to "sit in thrones" and judge the twelve tribes of Israel, where does that leave the apostle Paul?
Eden
figured i'd give them a shot to explain why i was expelled from the congregation 23 years ago without counsel or a jc.
dear sirs:.
i attended the xxxx congregation in the mid-1980s as a teenaged unbaptized publisher.
marked.
Interested to hear their reply as well.
Eden
"nice Eden" .... ?!?!?