I didn't say that Cofty, but if you're happy to put words in my mouth, I won't offend you by asking you to re-read what I wrote again.
Eden
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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EdenOne
Adam,
Every theodicy that a believer may come up with will be always met with contempt by an atheist, for he has no intellectual respect for the theist. I find it usually a waste of time to debate with those who don't respect my intelligence but demand that I am in awe of theirs in turn. That's utterly unstimulating and boring. Since faith isn't an item for the atheist, any argument that depends on faith will ultimately fail to convince the atheist. And that's ok. We don't have to agree in order that we may live peacefully with each other. Yet, my hope is better than your void.
you're really no different from the Pope, the GB, priests, etc, who get financial rewards and ego-gratification from prancing about and acting like they're God's prophets on Earth. It's the oldest game in the (Holy) Book, but you just happen to be really bad at it.
Likewise, you're not great at being a nice person. Just wondering if you realize that fact.
Eden
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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EdenOne
Cofty,
The fact that YOU have decided that you don't want to know God, or refuse the very concept of His existence, or, in the event that God exists, you find Him unworthy of your in-demand approval, only tells me that God is respectful of our own free will / free choice, something I'm sure you cherish. If you refuse to accept God's hope and you find no comfort in it, and choose to evangelize the believers about the absolute void that you believe that evidence supports, it's all good and dandy. Don't expect to partake in that hope, though. Don't mock the hope that others have, for it's better to find comfort in hope than to live without it. I hope in your lifetime you still have a change of heart, is all I can say, as it's never too late until we die.
Eden
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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EdenOne
I seriously do.
Happy now?
Eden
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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EdenOne
Adam, God can't be a product of MY imagination. I'm a terrible chess player, and I can't predict even two moves ahead.
Nice piece of naive art, though.
Eden
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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EdenOne
I didn't, but thanks for the input, betsy ;)
Eden
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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EdenOne
besty, please tell me that you were born instructed?
Edit: Perhaps you should find interesting to read something about Open Theism.
Eden
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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EdenOne
Cofty, let me go back to what I said previously. God CAN know everything if he chooses to become familiar with such thing. Doesn't mean he is informed at all times of everything taking place in every corner of the physical universe. After all, he also has a spiritual realm to deal with. Hence why he decided to come down and personally appraise the situation with Sodom after hearing many unfavorable reports about it. So if he chooses to, there is no subject, no person, no knowledge that is impossible for God to know or not see. Again, if he chooses to get familiar with said person / subject.
What seems rather obvious to me is that God stepped aside from the scene and decided to stop interveining in the human affairs after Christ's resurrection, handing over all authority to the Son. Still, the Hope that He made available makes Him worthy of my worship.
Eden
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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EdenOne
How would I know that, zound? For what I can tell in the Bible God isn't entirely "all-knowing", in the sense of being all the time aware of everything that goes on everywhere.
Eden
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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EdenOne
If God can't deny himself then, by definition, he isn't "all-powerful".
Why do we, humans, assume that God's business is to look after us 24/7/365 ? Is God our personal concierge service, by any chance? If you regard God in that way, no wonder you feel disapointed.
Eden