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  Goodbye JW net

  by snare&racket in

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  forgive me for indulging in a goodbye but it would feel wrong not to,.

  i hope the discussions and atmosphere here do not change for it is a bubbling brew of doubt, bravery and sincere hunger for answers.

  these are healthy ingrediants for humans and especially for a jehovah's witness.. this forum offers not just the ability to ask without consequence, but it also offers the means to be real.

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  EdenOne

  Congratulations S&R! Enjoy life ahead of you and use your education to help others. More friends will come. Thank you for your contributions here.

  Eden
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  The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

  by Focus in

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  most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

  this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

  so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

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  Very interesting. It seems that the old mantra : "Don't take it to court so not to bring reproach upon Jehovah's name" was a lesson learned after Russel's failed court cases, when he feared having his private life exposed before the public eye. Avoiding litigation means in fact try at all costs to keep The skeletons deep inside the closets.

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  "God-breathed Scriptures"

  by Doug Mason in

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  2. bible

  my study responds to the articles inspiration and canon in the book, insight on the scriptures.

  there can be few topics of more significance, regardless of ones attitude to the bible.. http://www.jwstudies.com/god-breathed_scriptures.pdf .

  doug.

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  Doug, one question.

  The term that Paul used, 'theopneustos', you say its a neologism. You make a good point that Paul never used that word before or after, and in Christian writings isn't used before this time. I was wondering if its the same for the entire greek language. Are there any other instances of this term in other greek works that aren't related with Christianity, BEFORE Paul used t?

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  "God-breathed Scriptures"

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my study responds to the articles inspiration and canon in the book, insight on the scriptures.

  there can be few topics of more significance, regardless of ones attitude to the bible.. http://www.jwstudies.com/god-breathed_scriptures.pdf .

  doug.

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  EdenOne

  Thank you Doug. A lot of research has gone into the article, and I'm half-way into it. Well done, and thank you.

  Eden
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  The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

  by Focus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

  this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

  so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

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  EdenOne

  http://www.freeminds.org/history/list.htm

  Since I'm its sole author, and made not a dime from it, perhaps you might rephrase your insolent question?

  Focus, are you the sole author of the list found at the link you provided on Freeminds? That list has been very helpful (in a way that I cannot discuss publicly here for risk of being outed). I have found it in at least three different websites, and never saw it credited to anyone. If you're the author, let me tell you, it has been helpful to me. If that's the case, thank you. I don't have any issues in acknowledging merit where it's due.

  Carry on, I'm listening; expect further challenges, but at least I'm loyal when I fire. Remember: "We appreciate frankness from those who like us. Frankness from others is called insolence". - Andre Maurois

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  The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

  by Focus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

  this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

  so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

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  EdenOne

  Raton,

  Once Focus stops insulting others, maybe he'll have some time to be truthful to his handle and come up with the goods.

  We're listening.

  Eden
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  The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

  by Focus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

  this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

  so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

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  EdenOne

  I'm addressing you in the mild and charitable manner only because you appear to be, on the evidence available, the least reprehensible of the trio.

  My oh my aren't you generous today

  "Spiritual Pedophiles" heh? How come paralelling the consumption of "apostate" material being equated to consumption of "pornography" lends you to level the accusation of "spiritual pedophilia"? Intellectual honesty should start inside you, before you even vomit that sort of filthy insult. That speaks volumes about you, Erna Petri.

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  The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

  by Focus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

  this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

  so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

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  EdenOne

  Are you in your right senses?

  Sanity? Check. Humanity? Check. Yep, I am.

  My identity is, by and large, my business, right?

  Agreed, but you've missed the point; I didn't inquiry about your 'real world' identity. By your own admission, you have used more different handles, and you operate in various platforms, not only JWN. It was a perfectly pertinent question, and not an attempt to "expose" the citizen behind Focus.

  please don't. For my sake. And for yours

  I'll take that as a direct threat, looking for intimidation.

  My motive for being here is to destroy the Watchtower. What's yours?

  I didn't come to JWN to destroy the Watchtower, although the more I know, the more I think this organization is unsound from top to bottom, as well as from its historical roots, and thus cannot be "reformed". I came to learn, to form a well-established, well-informed opinion about the Watchtower and its theology, and the point of view of its detractors. It shouldn't come as a surprise to you that the detractors of the WTS are mostly right, on multiple levels. So, my next goal is to help my family to get out, while trying to preserve my marriage. As for the "cruzade" to destroy the Watchtower, I leave that to heroes like yourself. I have much better things to do with my time and my money.

  Do you want to help people? Author a book. A GOOD book, backed up by documentation aplenty, to counter the idiotic whitewashing provided by the "Proclaimers" book. The go-to book for researchers. For people interested in facts, more than emotions, write a work that is capable of changing lives as "Crisis of Conscience". Then make sure it gets to the hands of decison makers all over the world. By doing THAT, you're really helping out people. Start a crowdfunding campain to raise funds to fund the investigation and publishing, while creating public awareness about the ongoing research. Here, I'll give you a title for the book, entirely for free: "THE KINGDOM OF SHEEP-HERDING WOLVES - A history of the International Bible Students' movement and the Jehovah's Witnesses"

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  The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

  by Focus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

  this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

  so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

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  EdenOne

  I'm going to answer your new impertinent questions - why, I don't know - and the answers are that I've nothing to do with the people behind that website, have no idea who they are, etc.

  See? When you try a little harder to overcome your self-aggrandizing obsession, you can actually be short and to the point. The rest of your petty attempt to be insulting towards me or anyone who challenges you is wholly wasted on me. Your irrelevance in my life is such that I don't effin' give a rat's ass about your opinion of me. But I wonder why you can't take a challenge without resorting to insult and ad hominem.

  Having said that I'll give you enough credit to take your word for it.

  Like I said, I value documentation, and will be very interested in the documentation you'll produce. (Other than the Eagle articles, as they are heavily biased. I took good note of your argument, that the Eagle, aware of Russell's litigation ability, wouldn't print accusations that would render unprovable in court. I think you're probably right, but -again - independent verification is required. You mencioned you had evidence of Maria Russell's presence in Canada to testify against Russell on the Russell v. Ross case. That's the sort of independent verification I expect to be produced.)

  If you would like to waste less brain power in responding to challenges, perhaps it's a good idea to start being less patronizing and name-caling to others. You see, they may not share the same level of sheer 'genious' of the likes of you, but they can surely succeed in getting to your nerves and waste your time. Learn some fundamental respect for other human beings, and others will be less prone to think of you as an animal.

  As for:

  I'll stop short of telling you go forth and procreate - for now.

  Thank you for the sound advice. I can do that. Can you still do it?

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  The world cup

  by Laika in

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  4 weeks of football and wimbledon tennis in between!?

  life is beautiful.. aaahhhh!

  i'm so excited!.

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  EdenOne

  I'm speechless. Brazil was reduced to utter vulgarity. 1-7!!

  Eden