Posts by EdenOne

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for those still "in" what's the mood

by lastchance in

in my area the general sense is bleak.

many are in survival mode.

even at the convention the appearance of the majority was unhappy and tired.

EdenOne

There's a significant detatchment between the discourse ("oh these wonderful new understandings!", "the organization is really moving forward", "the preaching work is accelerating", "the GB is so loving and really caring about us", "the end is really close now"...blah blah blah and whatnot) and THEN there is the actual deeds and general attitude. And what I see is the brothers tired, demotivated, going through the motions, no real spark anymore ... the KH is mostly a social club where they meet their friends. And I see the Elders feeling the knife on their backs to keep the rank & file marching in pace, and feeling they're losing grip on the situation, but at the same time drumming from the platform that Jehovah is blessing us, etc. In my congregation, over the last 2 years, 4 elders stepped down / were removed, and two relinquished their "special privileges" [such as overseeing the theocratic school], while keeping the Elder status, and 2 MS were removed (myself included).

Eden

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Is eating for Christians? If so, which food is suitable? (Reprint from The Witchtower)

by processor in

is eating for christians?

if so, which food is suitable?reprint from the witchtower, 04/2010.

they are like the bread ... all those eating it will defile themselves.

EdenOne

Priceless!

Eden

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Pixar the production company is jealous of Caleb and Sophia video's

by life is to short in

so said the co last night.. apparently a jw was on a flight and just happend to sit next to some big wig from pixar and when the man from pixar heard that he was a jw the pixar man just gushed over what great work that the watchtower has done in producing the caleb video's.

he siad he only wished pixar could do such great work.

the co said we are able to do it because we have free labor and jehovah behind us.. my husband stayed home from the meeting but wanted to tie in by phone and that is what the co said in his talk.. the co also talked about all the changes that have happened in the last ten years and how if some of the friends did not like it they needed and to quote him "they just needed to get over it" these changes are going to happned period.

EdenOne

There was this DO on a flight from Virginia Beach to Belize that sat next to the CEO of a local company that specializes in manufacturing civilian and military-grade bomb shelters; when he witnessed the guy, he told him he was blown away by the JW's because, back in the 1940's his company had learned about the bomb shelter that the society had bult in Beth-Shan, and they were so impressed that they licenced the design from the WTS, signed by Rutherford himself, and that is still the state-of-the-art technology they're using to this day to build nuclear-proof bomb shelters.

...... see how long it will take until this TRUE story makes into a Regional Convention or a CO talk.

Eden

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New Article in JW.ORG "Should Christians Drink Tea?"

by EdenOne in

should christians drink tea?.

would you like a cup of tea?.

this seemingly innocent question has been asked countless times, and is regarded as a gesture of courtesy and hospitability in many parts of the world, in both eastern and western culture.

EdenOne

Mr Negative

It's called "tasseography" or "tasseomancy".

The fact that Joseph owned a siver "divination cup" such as most egyptian noblemen had, doesn't mean that:

a) Joseph actually used it for divination purposes; He was probably just mongering fear among his brothers.

b) Such divination, if existed, was done with tea leaves.

Eden

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New Article in JW.ORG "Should Christians Drink Tea?"

by EdenOne in

should christians drink tea?.

would you like a cup of tea?.

this seemingly innocent question has been asked countless times, and is regarded as a gesture of courtesy and hospitability in many parts of the world, in both eastern and western culture.

EdenOne

Dis-Member

And, let's not forget that teaocracy is opposed to theocracy, just as teaism is opposed to theism. It's all the devil's work.

Eden

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Simon, please update my profile picture!

by will-be-apostate in

i've read on another thread you need to delete the cached file of the profile picture so that it can be updated by the gravatar user.

i created a gravatar account, added the email address i use on here and uploaded the an image, but nothing happens.

this was 3 days ago.. could you please solve this problem?.

EdenOne

Simon

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If You Can Get Out Of The Jehovah's Witness Religion---DO IT!

by minimus in

jw
friends

i realize some people feel they can't just leave the religion.

they have family, friends, position.. some elders mistakenly believe that they might be able to reform the cult from within.

the truth is, the religion is never really going to change.

EdenOne

Eden, or you could simply get out.

True, but for many heavy reasons, it's easier said than done.

Eden

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If You Can Get Out Of The Jehovah's Witness Religion---DO IT!

by minimus in

jw
friends

i realize some people feel they can't just leave the religion.

they have family, friends, position.. some elders mistakenly believe that they might be able to reform the cult from within.

the truth is, the religion is never really going to change.

EdenOne

The only "reform" that this organization will ever have will be driven from the top hats - never will a member of the "rank & file", solo or in tandem with others, be of any consequence in producing a true reform. So, for anyone still "in" like me, my advice is: abandon all hope that you may have any impact whatsoever in the changing of course of the organizational chariot. Never will you be called by the GB to inquiry about your ideas. You're nothing but expandable sheep meat, a tiny number in an ocean of numbers. Shut up and listen or be crushed, tossed out and shunned. Period. At best, you may get some of your closest friends and family to awake to the TATT. That's realistically all you can do.

It's way more effective what "apostates" and "closet apostates" do in forums and websites, exposing the WTS, its deviation from Christianity and its blatantly false and contrived doctrines, than any attempts to change coming from within. Look at what happened to Ray Franz, Edward Dunlap and others - and they were part of the "top hats".

Eden

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Simon, please update my profile picture!

by will-be-apostate in

i've read on another thread you need to delete the cached file of the profile picture so that it can be updated by the gravatar user.

i created a gravatar account, added the email address i use on here and uploaded the an image, but nothing happens.

this was 3 days ago.. could you please solve this problem?.

EdenOne

Just before Focus got banned by Simon, I got a strange PM from him.

He wanted to know the content of one of my posts that got deleted in another thread. Then he went on describing what he was about to do to another forum member that clashed with him [Caedes], and insinuated that, because of the resemblance of avatars, I might be Caedes in a different clothing. It was the second time he has threatened me with interference in my private life.

I frankly found that message pretty disturbing, and replied asked him to abandon the idea of stepping into the realm of someone's life outside of this forum, just to vindicate his authorship claims. I don't know if he ever got that reply before he was deleted. No matter how great his contribution for the awakening of those inside the WTS with his extensive research, his personallity is a problem and such a course of action is outright reckless and dangerous, and cannot be tolerated. I will miss Focus on this forum for his wealth of information, but his condescending tone clearly has rubbed me in the wrong way.

Eden

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New Article in JW.ORG "Should Christians Drink Tea?"

by EdenOne in

should christians drink tea?.

would you like a cup of tea?.

this seemingly innocent question has been asked countless times, and is regarded as a gesture of courtesy and hospitability in many parts of the world, in both eastern and western culture.

EdenOne

Let's not forget the connection of tea with the obscure cult of teaism ...

Teaism => Taoism .... no proof whatsoever offered to backup such an omnious claim. Plus, "teaism" is an invention :P Yet, when you read it in the middle of the flow, one just tend to accept it without much difficulty.

Eden