Yeah, I too remember thinking that taking blood fractions was a ludicrous concession to weakling Witnesses: no doctrinal explanation could ever justify the change.
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so, imagine that you're just a regular joe who's not familiar with the witnesses and is looking for the answers to life, the universe, and everything.
you hear a knock at your door.
before long, you are studying with a jehovah's witness.
Yeah, I too remember thinking that taking blood fractions was a ludicrous concession to weakling Witnesses: no doctrinal explanation could ever justify the change.
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i know, people are very different and have different levels of holds to the organization, but i'm insanely curious about how long an exposure to ttatt may marinate before culminating into an action to research further.. from your earliest memory of a planted seed due to an event, challenge from another person, accidental website hit... whatever... (the crack) to the time the ttatt became a reality, (the avalanche), how much time expired?.
i guess we have to remember that everyone here is a success story and that for many, it may be never.. .
It took about two years for me.
I had my doubts before, especially with changing doctrines concerning the "end times prophecies" And how they only seemed to change to suit the relentless passing of time, and how did that compute with guideance from the Holy Spirit. Yet, I've always somehow swept things under the rug, because whatever wrongs there might be, Jehovah would correct them in due time.
But only when I was seriously challenged by two different people regarding accusations of paedophilia problems with the JW Organization I began to investigate further into other scandals. That led me to Robert King's website/forum, then to JWN. I've come a long way, really.
Yet, even then, I only left when I successfully took my entire household family out as well.
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i never had the privilege to serve at bethel .. therefore, community help is greatly appreciated friends.. do the gb members have their own living quarters separate from the average jw?.
does their "busy" schedule permit field service, if yes, how many hours a month?.
how long are their weekly wednesday meetings?.
My perception is that they don't care much about money - because they have no anxiety whatsoever about getting it, in the first place, since every possible material need they have is provided for - and they don't have the personal ambition to become wealthy men, as that would be too visible before the R&F, and it would endanger what they really care for - power over other people's lives. It's that power that drives the contributions to keep the organization going, which, in turn, allows them to be finantially provided for, which in turn .... it's a cycle. The trip that gets them high is really the power, the control.
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in an earlier thread, i mentioned that i wasn't a particularly doggy person but that my parents got a husky last year that i've come to regard as a kind of brother.. huskies superficially resemble wolves and for me it's been fun to compare and contrast husky and wolf behaviour.
huskies howl but rarely bark, and seem to have a strong prey drive and a strong pack instinct - a nod to their wild cousins.
this is why i love huskies, i think.. do you have a favourite dog breed and why?.
tim, what a beautiful dog.
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in an earlier thread, i mentioned that i wasn't a particularly doggy person but that my parents got a husky last year that i've come to regard as a kind of brother.. huskies superficially resemble wolves and for me it's been fun to compare and contrast husky and wolf behaviour.
huskies howl but rarely bark, and seem to have a strong prey drive and a strong pack instinct - a nod to their wild cousins.
this is why i love huskies, i think.. do you have a favourite dog breed and why?.
BTW, the life span of a Serra da Estrela dog, if properly taken care of, is around 12-15 years.
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in an earlier thread, i mentioned that i wasn't a particularly doggy person but that my parents got a husky last year that i've come to regard as a kind of brother.. huskies superficially resemble wolves and for me it's been fun to compare and contrast husky and wolf behaviour.
huskies howl but rarely bark, and seem to have a strong prey drive and a strong pack instinct - a nod to their wild cousins.
this is why i love huskies, i think.. do you have a favourite dog breed and why?.
The "privacy" feature means that you shouldn't try to force them to come to you when they're not so inclined - they naturally come, but in their own terms. When they're in the mood, they're very affectuous and expressive. But often, they like to just "retreat" into a shady corner somewhere and be left alone. They're still doing their perceived job, to protect the property and the family, but they do it in their own terms. They have a super sharp ear and react promptly. Like I said, they tend to be very stubborn. The only health issue that's common to them is something common to most big dogs: with age, sometimes they develop a serious hip dysplasia and they get terrible pains to walk. In that situation one must wheigh the possibility to put an end to their misery.
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in an earlier thread, i mentioned that i wasn't a particularly doggy person but that my parents got a husky last year that i've come to regard as a kind of brother.. huskies superficially resemble wolves and for me it's been fun to compare and contrast husky and wolf behaviour.
huskies howl but rarely bark, and seem to have a strong prey drive and a strong pack instinct - a nod to their wild cousins.
this is why i love huskies, i think.. do you have a favourite dog breed and why?.
LV101, the Serra da Estrela dog is of easy maintenance - feed him, give him space, respect his privacy and show him some affection and he's got your back for life! This breed has a lot in common with the great mastiffs. Their cubs are the cutest creatures on earth, if you don't fall in love for them, you have no heart :)
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a few days ago, i was in a book store, and i picked up a book providing a brief overview of classical mythology.
as i examined the opening pages, i read about tartaurus (place of punishment) and hades (god of the underworld).. it seems so odd that tartarus and hades would be mentioned in the new testament, and yet they were part of greek mythology which predated the new testament.
why would bible writers have used such terms?
Magnum: it does seem that I'm at the beginning of the end of my belief in the Bible. Right now, that's depressing to me. I loved having a hope for the future, but now that hope is fading fast.
I can feel your pain, I've been through the same recently, and all it took was a serious evaluation of the NT; I didn't even spent much time dealing with the OT. I too came to be convinced that the Bible isn't the "word of God", and Christianity as we know it is mostly an invention of the apostle Paul and his disciples, and has little to do with the teachings and activities of that jewish Rabbi that we know as Jesus. An appealing invention, but it has no foundation in the teachings of a "would-be-son-of-God", which is what ultimately would grant its authority.
Like Doug Mason said, this in itself doesn't negate the possibility of the existence of a God above; but destroys the portrait of the God that we have been so familiar with. That loss can either be sad or liberating. I feel a mix of both. The way I see it at this point in my journey, if a mighty, loving, caring and just creator God exists, he's for sure distant and apparently barely interested in us as individuals - if at all. Plus, I question whether such God require or even be interested in our worship and obedience? I can certainly love and care for people who don't obey and worship me. Why would God make that a requirement to bestow his love and care upon us, anyway?
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alot of people are saying god is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues.
but didn't god achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?.
Thanks, Doug.
I clearly need to read more into that subject.
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alot of people are saying god is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues.
but didn't god achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?.
Doug,
if I understand correctly, are you proposing that Deuteronomy was a literary forgery concocted at the time of King Josiah? Everything I have read until now claims that Deuteronomy was written around the time of the Babylonian exile, not before that.
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