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  Wife is FOR SURE waking up

  by cappytan in

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  well, this is a new development.

  she broached the subject of ttatt tonight.

  said i was right about the flood.

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  Congratulations, you both seem to be on the same page and she appears to be really waking up. As others have stated ...baby steps. Take it easy and slow, and let her do her own research, don't shove it all down on her throat. Respect her pace. Offer her some clues on subjects that you find hard to deal with regarding the Witnesses and the Organization, but let her do her research on her own, as nothing is more intimately rewarding than to come to your own conclusions without being forced into it. Expect some bursts of "apostate" thinking, followed by some retractions driven by guilt and fear. Relax - it's all part of the process of letting go of something we all once cherished. Just be there for her and reassure her that you have her back, no matter what follows next - and be prepared, because it will require courage and determination to face what's coming to you both.

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  Self assembly chairs & evolution

  by suavojr in

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  i'm no expert and do not claim to be in regards to how evolution works but this small test did make think how all things are related and have evolved from one common ancestor.

  the horrible example that i grew up hearing about a watch not being able to assemble itself or plane after a tornado, etc... dawkins would say, "well of course not" but mit seems to be on the path to make us think twice.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnj1spfo4ek.

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  I think it does nothing to prove evolution; if anything, it would make a case for intelligent design. But in the end, I think any analogy with how life came to be isn't suitable.

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  Letter From My Elder Uncle

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok guys, this is long, so i am sorry, but i think it is important to publish.

  this is a glimpse into a 4 page letter (love that song) from my uber elder uncle.

  as some of you may know i got tired of being in an email chain and finally lost it and lashed out.

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  would it have been different if we knew why?

  by sowhatnow in

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  2. beliefs

  i always took issue with the idea of no one knowing why a person got df.. i know im not alone.. i complained to my mother about this when i was younger, explaining that how do we know what it is that gets a person df if no one knows what they did?

  my moms answer was , .

  'if people knew a persons personal faults and what they did , others would not be so forgiving when they were reinstated, because we'd always view them with that view, so in other words, if when so n so, committed fornication, and the whole cong would know it, if they announced from the platform then his/her reputation would be permanently stained' .

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  I think the GB took a lesson from the Olin Moyle case and know better than to go on public and acuse someone of some wrongdoing, real or not. They know such behavior can turn against themselves and be taken to court and won by the DF person. That's why they don't state the reasons publicly. I actually agree that it shouldn't be publicized, so to avoid adding unecessary stigma to an already unpleasant situation.

  Of course, the rumour mill is the drawback of this situation. I wasn't DF'd but after my JC I stopped attending meetings. Those close to me know that the reason for the JC was an allegation of apostasy. However, gossip going around has it that I've been attending meetings of another religious group! How insane is that?

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  A whole decade?

  by Caedes in

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  according to the new software i have been here for ten years.

  should i be getting parole around now?

  doesn't time fly when you are having fun!

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  Hey, no molestation of kitties allowed!
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  WALKING DEAD fans - Was that a JW at the very end of the latest episode?

  by Zoos in

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  2. entertainment

  did you see the last episode?

  that nicely dressed, freshly-shaven young man that came out from behind the trees at the very end and said:.

  i didn't mean to interrupt.

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  I he was a JW he would have immediately placed a brochure "Is There Hope For The Dead?", because ... ermm... they're all dead!!!

  I won't spoil too much, but apparently Aaron in one of the 'good guys'. But he could NEVER be a JW, for reasons you'll find out soon enough.

  Love the show, btw!

  Eden
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  I'm Going to Regular Pioneer.....................

  by The Searcher in

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  .........................as soon as any fellow witness can -.

  a) provide just one bible verse that proves jesus personally selected anyone in 1919 - let alone j.f.

  rutherford & co. - as his "faithful slave".

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  *...............crickets ....................*
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  Anthem for those who yearn to leave the Org

  by EdenOne in

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  http://youtu.be/auwkfvru8v8.

  excerpt from muse's "explorers".

  free mefree mefree me from this worldwe don't belong hereit was a mistake imprisoning our soulscan you free mefree me from this worldfree mei'll free youfree us from this worldwe don't belong hereit was a mistake imprisoning our soulscan you free mefree me from this worldrunning around in circles feeling cagedby endless rulescan you free me, free me from this worldgo to sleep.

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  http://youtu.be/AuwKfVrU8V8

  Excerpt from Muse's "Explorers"

  Free me
  Free me
  Free me from this world
  We don't belong here
  It was a mistake imprisoning our souls
  Can you free me
  Free me from this world
  
  Free me
  I'll free you
  Free us from this world
  We don't belong here
  It was a mistake imprisoning our souls
  Can you free me
  Free me from this world
  
  Running around in circles feeling caged
  By endless rules
  Can you free me, free me from this world
  
  Go to sleep
  
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  PBS program

  by wannaexit in

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  watching the pbs program as i write...........

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  Nothing I've heard is truly novel, but this is a breakthrough for the broader audience who has no idea of the situation and inner workings of Jehovah's Witnesses organization. I expect some shock waves, but until a major news station ( Fox, CBS, CNN, NBC...) picks it up, the effect will be limited and the WTS will try to whistle away and pretend they don't have a problem.

  This needs to be pushed further. In any case, well done!

  Eden
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  What comforts you when you no longer believe in a ressurrection ?

  by EdenOne in

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  our family just lost someone dear and very close, a faithful jw.

  as we went through the entire funeral services and meeting long time brothers and sisters, who in general have been very kind and warm towards us, we realize that the hope of resurrection is a meaningless utopia for us, like a fairytale for little children.

  we don't have faith in it anymore, and serves us of no comfort.

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  Thank you MissFit. And, Scully, how right you are! The "hope of resurrection" is often used as a form of psychological blackmail to keep you in, or at least mentally tied to the JW beliefs, because you don't want to risk letting down your loved ones who expect to see you again when they resurrect. We've heard a lot of those expressions over the past few days, and it just felt sickening.

  The funny thing behind this apparently emotionally loaded argument is how cold and judgmental this reasoning is: The person who says: "What will I tell your mother when she resurrects and you're not there?" - is already ruling that: a) He/she will definitely be resurrected, while b) You definitely won't be resurrected. I suppose such person disregards Jesus' own teaching: "Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned" - Luke 6:37

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