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I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
EdenOne

Their God existed indeed and it was there in the sky for everyone to see. If you don't agree with them about their God's ability to interact with them, that's a matter of opinion. If the point is debating existence, I say their God did indeed exist, and there is evidence to back it up.
However, Cofty, you're resorting to your usual strawman fallacy here. The point of absentheism isn't asserting the existence or non-existence of deities. It simply is asserting that the only thing that we can confidently say about them - and back it up with evidence - is that they're absent. If you want to do your tired number of grandiose claims that God doesn't exist, then be prepared to provide overwhelming evidence for it. The kind of evidence you usually demand from theists.
Eden
284
I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
EdenOne

Atheism isn't a statement, it is a response.
BS - it is a statement, to wit, that "no deities exist". Perhaps it's not your brand of atheism, but it is certainly the main claim it makes. If you're skeptical, that doesn't make you an atheist, you're perhaps closer to being an absentheist. Otherwise you too have to back up your grandiose atheist claims with overwhelming evidence.
eden
284
I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
EdenOne

This is factually incorrect.
Is it? Aten, the ancient egyptian sun-god is a good example. It is merely a solar disc, with no human traits associated with it, no anthropomorphic representation of is, but was believed that all light, heath and life emanated from it. It was worshipped as a God.
Eden
284
I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
EdenOne

The problem of atheism is that it makes a grandiose claim about any and every deity, when in fact they need a very precise definition of what constitutes a deity in order that their claim may have the slightest chance to logically succeed. If a deity escapes that narrow definition, atheists find themselves in boiling water, just as theists they love to trump. That's why "absentheism" adheres to the available evidence, while theism plays on a probability.
Eden
284
I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
EdenOne

I just defined a deity for you. I said, to them they took the sun at face value, they didn't think of it as a person with a personality. They took it for what they received from it and worshipped it as their God.
are you telling me that said God doesn't exist? You're going against evidence.
Eden
284
I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
EdenOne

So, in this case:
a) The sun exists
b) Humans thought of the sun as their God and worshipped it.
c) Therefore, God exists.
Eden
284
I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
EdenOne

OneEyedJoe: What's the point in having a god that deserves neither worship, nor respect?
I would add another question to yours: if God exists, does he want and require our worship? Does he care for that? Why would he, anyway?
Eden
284
I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
EdenOne

You want a definition? Let me play your game.
Ancient tribes worshipped the sun. To them it was the source of light, heat and the nurturing of life. They didn't think of it as a person, an intelligence. They accepted it at face value. For them, it was their God. In this case, does God exist or not?
Eden
284
I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
EdenOne

An atheist is somebody who doesn't accept the grandiose claims of theism.
An atheist does that by making yet another grandiose claim, this time about the inexistence of deities.
Eden
284
I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
EdenOne

Again, don't put words in my mouth that I didn't say. I said: "The only thing that can be said about God (or deity or deities) is that it's absent, hence I'm an absentheist". I didn't say "There is a God and it's absent". Stop putting words in my mouth so that you can argue against them.
Eden