there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.
been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.
however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
I can't help it if you getting called out for making false statements feels like a personal attack to you.
It's one thing to tell me: "You're wrong. Because..."
It's another thing to say: "You're dishonest."
The first I take it well. The second, I don't. It's not about compartmentalization; it's about urbanity.
Eden
there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.
been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.
however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
Vivian: Please show where, on this thread, I have insulted a person rather than discuss the content of the post.
I have, but you don't think it qualifies as a personal attack / insult. I beg to differ. It's certainly not my imagination when I'm the object of it, perhaps you can ask your interlocutor if he/she felt personally offended by your remark. Besides, it is perfectly possible to insult someone all the while staying on topic. I recommend you reading "Churchill's Wit" for an example of that.
In the future, please don't pretend I get offended at your attempts to insult me (...) I find it pretty damn amusing.
Perhaps you can point out where have I have shown such pretense? Or is it just your imagination? In any case, it's good to know that you find it amusing.
Eden
there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.
been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.
however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
Calling dishonesty dishonest is an accurate representation and not a personal attack.
Since I assume you CAN read, then you should know that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about a common technique you use, which is to qualify what others say or think in such a way that you implicitly attack that person's intelligence, integrity and character - therefore, in essence, a sly form of ad hominem. And then you complaint you become the recipient of ad hominem as well? Therefore, if you deceitfully claim you don't attack others personally, but merely their ideas, when if fact that's precisely what you do, how shall we call that? That's right - dishonesty.
And btw - this will save me another post - to reply to your thoughtful comment in another thread: My fantasies are only about tasteful items, therefore ... no.
Eden
there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.
been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.
however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
No one has vilified any one. Ideas and claims have been vilified. To say otherwise is to misrepresent reality.
Really, Viviane? Well, although you have shown some unusual verbal restraint on this particular thread, here's an example:
Vivian: More dishonesty... yep, you're being religious for sure.
The above is a cunning way to say the same insult twice: The person may have said something that's not accurate, but you chose the term "dishonesty", knowing full well, that such qualifies the person saying it as "dishonest". On the same sentence, you equate religion with dishonesty, and then go on saying that your interlocutor is religious, therefore claiming he's dishonest.
It's like if I said: "Oh, do you believe in X? Only stupid people believe in X" - and then claim I didn't call that person stupid.
Eden
there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.
been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.
however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
If one insists on the right to villify others, it should be no surprise that it comes back to bite you. To relentlessly, systematically, criticize others for simply stating their opinions – and I have observed that it doesn’t matter if such opinions are presented as facts or mere personal beliefs – is foolish, annyoing, and tiring. It may also be pathological. Often, those who overcriticize others for attempting to share their beliefs, are themselves preaching their own set of creeds – be it rationalism, science, theism atheism or whatnot.
Eden
there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.
been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.
however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
You're totes adorbs
Gee, you've just made me blush, Viviane.
Eden
there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.
been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.
however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
I think it's best, in the interest of peace that we all (exception made to Viviane) stop making general statements that common sense (except Viviane's common sense, if it can be proven to exist in lab controlled conditions, I'm just working on an assumption here, as I cannot know if her common sense is equal to everyone else's) would understand it as not applying to 100% of mankind without qualifying first that we're not speaking in her name. If we all (exception made to Viviane) make such effort, life will be easier for everyone (with the exception of Viviane). That way any forum member (with the exception of Viviane) will not commit the severe error to speak in Viviane's name or assume what she does or thinks, something she clearly disapproves. Let us (with the exception of Viviane) give it our best shot at it.
Eden
golden age 1930 apr 2 p.446.
question: will husband and wife live together after the resurrection is completed, if both are in harmony with god?.
the most that we know is that here will be no children born during the last 100 years of the millinnium (isa.
That is seriously whacked.
Eden
haven't seen jeffro in a few months.
i wonder if he's doing ok.. eden.
Haven't seen Jeffro in a few months. I wonder if he's doing ok.
Eden
on another thread a poster made the comment that the golden rule was garbage.
she said it was arrogant and made assumptions.. i didn't want to derail that thread so i started another wondering if this is a common thought about this belief on this forum.
i guess i naively thought the value of doing to others as you want them to do to you was generally accepted as positive.. i understand people have different opinions of jesus as a person but i don't want to get into that here.
Viviane: I could count on you to say something both useless but, and this is key, also letting everyone know just how singed your feelings are
Seriously, Viviane ... lighten up :)
Eden
