Posts by EdenOne

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Geoffrey Jackson's Golden Apple watch INVESTIGATED

by C0ntr013r in

i went through the original footage to get a good look at the watch.. from these pictures we can probably say that it is a apple watch and that it has a golden color.

the color on the pin is black, and the band is white, grey, silvery or beige.. .

the pin is in the exact place for it to be a apple watch.. only apple watch edition have the gold color.

EdenOne

Back in the early 1990's I heard a talk by our CO that told an experience that went more or less like this:

In a certain congregation in a poor neighborhood a brother who owned a manufacturing business bought a very expensive car. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, said the CO, except the brothers at the congregation were uncomfortable with that display of "materialism". So what did the good brother do? In order not to stumble his brethren, he sold the expensive car, and instead bought a much more humble, small, second-hand car. That way, the peace of the congregation was preserved and no one had any more cause to stumble.

Boy, are we removed from those days, aren't we?

Eden

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Participate In The EX-JW Personality Test!

by C0ntr013r in

first of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.

but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.

so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .

EdenOne

INTP here.

Eden

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Today's meeting & WT 7/2015 study "Work to enhance the spiritual paradise"

by Mrs. Eden in

so, much against my inclination, i went to the meeting this sunday morning.

just starting to fade, but i needed to do it so that it doesn't look like my hubby turned my head during last week's vacations.

since i'm not just disappearing cold turkey, i went.

EdenOne

From the 2015 Yearbook:

Total hours spent in the field ministry (2014): 1,945,487,604.

What a staggering amount of time! Now, let's just to put this into perspective: According to UNHCR, the total amount of people dislocated by war in 2014 are 59,500,000 million people.

Now, if we divide the amount of hours the Jehovah's Witnesses have spent in their useless "field ministry" work, for the number of refugees, each Jehovah Witness could have spent 2h45 minutes each month to volunteer to help these refugees. Wouldn't that be a much more productive and truly helpful way to spend their time to meet true and immediate needs of people, rather than preaching the 'desperately needed guidance from Jehovah'?

Eden

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Today's meeting & WT 7/2015 study "Work to enhance the spiritual paradise"

by Mrs. Eden in

so, much against my inclination, i went to the meeting this sunday morning.

just starting to fade, but i needed to do it so that it doesn't look like my hubby turned my head during last week's vacations.

since i'm not just disappearing cold turkey, i went.

EdenOne

Jehovah's Witness simply imitate their God....

Eden

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Do you find it hard to be around active JW's now?

by EdenOne in

i do - actually, it's become close to unbearable.. and herein lies the paradox: i tried to fade in the illusion that i might keep contact with family and friends still "in".

was it worth it?

because not only most of them shun me anyways, but i find it almost unbearable to be around them, especially when the cult chit chat kicks in: every cute animal video clip triggers endless comments about glimpses of the future paradise and how "god did it"; those greasy praises to the organization and the governing body; the dumb awe about every jw broadcast and those cheesy music videos; the endless drivel against other religions when one knows perfectly well that we're no better than them; the endless flow of "experiences" of field service or spectacular conversions into "the truth"; the relentless congregation gossip; and so on .... i ask myself: is this why i am fading for ...?

EdenOne

Also about Facebook and other social networks: many JW's seem to have a 'guilty pleasure complex' for using wordly social networks, so they appear to be exceedingly 'spiritual' or their posts (while I know that on their daily life they aren't all that), or they try hard to put a 'spiritual spin' on otherwise trivial or wordly posts. In any case, associating with these cheesy Org lovers via social networks is equaly nauseating.

Have you noticed that?

Eden

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Do you find it hard to be around active JW's now?

by EdenOne in

i do - actually, it's become close to unbearable.. and herein lies the paradox: i tried to fade in the illusion that i might keep contact with family and friends still "in".

was it worth it?

because not only most of them shun me anyways, but i find it almost unbearable to be around them, especially when the cult chit chat kicks in: every cute animal video clip triggers endless comments about glimpses of the future paradise and how "god did it"; those greasy praises to the organization and the governing body; the dumb awe about every jw broadcast and those cheesy music videos; the endless drivel against other religions when one knows perfectly well that we're no better than them; the endless flow of "experiences" of field service or spectacular conversions into "the truth"; the relentless congregation gossip; and so on .... i ask myself: is this why i am fading for ...?

EdenOne

DoC: We are choosing to "fade" for them too. They do not WANT to shun us, and they do NOT shun us now, because they are not obligated to do so.

You make a very good point there. As me and Mrs. Eden were reading, we looked at each other and nodded, because that's precisely why we still think it's worth it to fade - because there are other faders like us whom we would like to try and keep as friends - and I would add to that the family still in. Because by not being DF or DA, it removes the obligation to shun, and avoids embarassing and awkward situations between JW relatives, that 'wordly' relatives wouldn't be able to ever understand.

Besides, it removes unecessary stress from accidental meetings with active JWs who won't feel obliged to shun us then, but act like normal, polite human beings.

Eden

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Do you find it hard to be around active JW's now?

by EdenOne in

i do - actually, it's become close to unbearable.. and herein lies the paradox: i tried to fade in the illusion that i might keep contact with family and friends still "in".

was it worth it?

because not only most of them shun me anyways, but i find it almost unbearable to be around them, especially when the cult chit chat kicks in: every cute animal video clip triggers endless comments about glimpses of the future paradise and how "god did it"; those greasy praises to the organization and the governing body; the dumb awe about every jw broadcast and those cheesy music videos; the endless drivel against other religions when one knows perfectly well that we're no better than them; the endless flow of "experiences" of field service or spectacular conversions into "the truth"; the relentless congregation gossip; and so on .... i ask myself: is this why i am fading for ...?

EdenOne

I do - actually, it's become close to unbearable.

And herein lies the paradox: I tried to fade in the illusion that I might keep contact with family and friends still "in". Was it worth it? Because not only most of them shun me anyways, but I find it almost unbearable to be around them, especially when the cult chit chat kicks in: every cute animal video clip triggers endless comments about glimpses of the future paradise and how "God did it"; those greasy praises to the Organization and the Governing Body; the dumb awe about every JW Broadcast and those cheesy music videos; the endless drivel against other religions when one knows perfectly well that we're no better than them; the endless flow of "experiences" of field service or spectacular conversions into "the Truth"; the relentless congregation gossip; and so on ...

I ask myself: Is this why I am fading for ...? To keep friends like these?

Eden

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Does the Jehovah's Witnesses fall into category of being an organized cult ?

by Finkelstein in

i think it does especially being that this organization is rigidly structured itself on formulated doctrines from a top hierarchy of men which are strictly enforced, among other reasons.

what cults are.

a cult is not necessarily a religious group, although religious cults are common, including breakaway sects from more mainstream faiths.

EdenOne

Finkelstein, thank you for this info.

Can you name your source(s) please?

Edit: Nevermind, you did it. It's the familysurvivaltrust.org you mentioned on the second post. Thanks

Eden

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

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i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

EdenOne

Stumpy! I went through this thread the other day, and was wondering what had become of you. Glad to know you're doing well and together with Mrs. Stumpy you're fading out of the Org. I'll look into your files - thank you for posting them.

All the best for you both.

Eden

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OSCE (The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe

by Paul Bonanno in

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i have noticed that the jws are participating in meetings organized by the osce.

they are registered or participate under the "european association of jehovah's christian witnesses".

one point highlighted in this organization is tolerance.

EdenOne

DJS,

hats off, Sir! That's one awesome message.

Eden