I think that, ultimately, we all aim to become ex-ex-JWs. But, while that process lasts, we dissipate our negative energy by helping and supporting others on their journey out of the Org. At least, that's how I see it.
Eden
i just tried to go to the site and there is a goodbye message.
i was a member there since 2010. i was really surprised.
i had just started posting there again after being away for a while.
I think that, ultimately, we all aim to become ex-ex-JWs. But, while that process lasts, we dissipate our negative energy by helping and supporting others on their journey out of the Org. At least, that's how I see it.
Eden
i read in another thread, where it said that the wts, has investments from stocks, with the companys of lockheed martin and grumman northrop.
these are some of the biggest weapons suppliers to the us,uk, and israel.
i would think it would be very hypocritical for a christian organisation, that claims to be nuetral, and to "learn war no more", to invest money in companys that produce weapons, that are used in wars.. is this true, though?
My question regarding the Henrietta Riley fund is:
What if she is merely a figurehead that allowed her name to be used, and the money invested in that fund is in fact Watch Tower Society's money? Is that a far-fetched idea?
You see, the fund was setup in the 1970's, and the said Henrietta M. Riley died in 1945. Who decided that her supposed estate should be invested in a trust fund, and when?
EdenOne
now this is weird, ever heard of the "mandela effect" ???
i know how crazy it sounds but i got to tell you, this article about the governing body finally admitting the "faithful slave" was not divinely appointed by jesus in 1919 was epic to me.
like a mandela effect feeling.
We have a word play in Portuguese with the name of a fish: Pescada. [Cyniscion leiarchus] In english, it literally means "Fished". So, we ask the riddle: "What is the thing that was, before being?" Answer: the "Pescada". Because it was Fished before it was fished.
The Governing Body wants us to believe they were before they became ... the "faithful slave".
The phrasing in Matthew 24:45 indicates that the reason why the Lord picks that particular slave to provide food in the proper time to the domestics is precisely because he is already considered "faithful and prudent" BEFORE he is assigned that task. The implication of this is simple: He must be in existence before this assignment. The mistake of the GB is to teach that BEFORE 1919 there was no slave, that it came to exist on that year with the supposed appointment by Jesus. This is an obvious misstep; why would the GB make such mistake? It seems obvious to me: They want to discard the teachings and work of Charles Taze Russell. That's why he has been now paralleled with John The Baptist, by saying he did the work of a precursor. But, because he wasn't yet the slave, it can be argued that he wasn't directed by the Lord, and that is why he made a lot of false predictions about 1914, amongst other teachings that were later discarded.
In fact, the true founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses is now JF Rutherford. Russell belongs to the Bible Students movement.
Of course, the whole point is moot when you consider that the "faithful slave" narrative is a PARABLE, not a PROPHECY. It is meant to be a moral story about readiness and faithfulness, that's all there is to it.
EdenOne
it has been over 100 years since jesus christ was enthroned as king in the heavens in 1914 according to jehovah`s witnesses with the task of preaching "this good news of the kingdom" in all the inhabited earth .for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.. it`s been over 2000 years since this task was given to jesus disciples , who evolved into christendom over the centuries with many sects that abound today.. neither have succeeded in carrying out this task to completion and christendom has had far longer an opportunity to do so.
however jehovah`s witnesses claim they are the true religion with gods approval .. so you would expect a better achievement .
jesus christ has used up more than 100 years of his rule with no major accomplishments , it does not look like he is going to achieve any better than what christendom did in 2000 years.in fact by all accounts he is going to be far worse.. jehovah`s witnesses as a minority sect are becoming more irrelevant as each year passes.. even their "witnessing" has been dumb`d down so much that it is an embarrassment to observe in the field.. in the 60`s and 70`s their was an urgency to get this message across to people , today ?
Then don't forget that we will be approaching the 2000 years over the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE. Do you see the type / antitype? hint hint ....
Eden
great news!.
we are free!.
as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.
Someone gave Cofty a "dislike" vote for congratulating me? Why?
Eden
two days ago a new book was released for download, called "ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnesses".
it was originally written by a polish jw scholar (who never was a jw himself) włodzimierz bednarski, with a help from szymon matusiak, who was a jw and an elder, and is a result of years of labourious work to compile quotes regarding every single doctrine the book describes.
it covers the most important changes in years 1879—2015.
Great work.
I've posted a link to it on the Portuguese forum of ex-JW's.
EdenOne
great news!.
we are free!.
as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.
NAJW, I live in the suburbs of Lisbon, in a sought-after tourist area (Cascais, Estoril, Sintra). Actually, I live quite near the Portuguese branch office (can see it from my house, a couple of miles away). If one of you happens to come this way send me a message.
Ghiagirl, I'm very fortunate. If you go through my old posts you will see that this was a story with ups and downs and setbacks, but finally we got out all together. I am especially happy that my son escaped the cult before it would cause permanent damage to his life. We still have family in, some of it super zealots, quite high in the hierarchy and frankly, we don't see them giving up their comfortable career in the Organization. Some other family, however, could open their eyes through our example and consider leaving as well. I'm hopeful they might do that at some point in the future.
DJS Nice to meet you, David :)
Eden
great news!.
we are free!.
as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.
It's official : It was announced from the platform at tonight's meeting. I'm officially out of this cult.
Mrs. Eden will follow suit on tomorrow's meeting (on the brief time she went back in she moved to the neighbor congregation, so it will be announced there).
My name is Ricardo and I am proudly an ex-JW and an anti-Watch Tower Society promoter.
Cheers to all of you.
Eden
just finished a walk today i came onto a happy family group of all the generations celebrating a tiny ones birthday.
they all sang ..happy birthday and i sang with my bass baritone the chorus, .."why was she born so beautiful why was she born at all.." silly words but they are happy words.
the family cheered their pleasure at this outsider joining in.
- These celebrations are done in such a way that are nothing more than an excuse to excessive drinking/eating and carrying on with un-Christian-like behaviors.
Bullocks! In 9 out of 10 cases, they are merely a happy family meal with a cake and a happy birthday song thrown into it. My son turned 19 two weeks ago and we had cake and a happy birthday song and we didn't resort to alcohol and substance abuse, sexual misconduct or Satan worship.
- Birthday ceremonies easily facilitate development of a narcissistic attitude on the person celebrated.
More bullocks! There's more creature worship in front of a TV screen every time a sanctimonious GB member speaks, than in most anonymous birthday celebrations.
Eden
great news!.
we are free!.
as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.
I was a friend of the person who is in charge of the Service Department here at the Branch Office in Portugal, since he had been for many years the PO of my congregation and we had a good relationship. I handed over the letter regarding the National Defense Day personally to him at Bethel. So I know it wasn't lost in the mail ... plus, I received a letter from the CO acknowledging the reception of a copy of that letter and saying that, since I presented my case to Bethel, it should be Bethel to deal with it. The Body of Elders also got a copy of that letter.
In any case, the reply was ... *crickets*
Eden