Posts by EdenOne

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PORTUGAL: Filed a petition to the parliament to erase the legal entity of the Jehovah's Witness

by EdenOne in

based on legal arguments that revolve around violations of several articles of the portuguese constitution, and of the law of religious freedom, a petition to the portuguese parliament has been set in motion to extinguish the legal entity that represents the jehovah's witness in portugal and remove this community from the national register of recognized religions protected by law.

the petition does not seek to ban the jehovah's witness as a whole in the country.

the petition denounces the institutional policy of shunning former members as a violation of basic human rights and psychological torture, and asks the portuguese legislators and judicial authorities to take action to stop this abuse, and suspend legal recognition to the branch office entity until the policies of shunning are changed.

EdenOne

IMPORTANT: Here's how you can help.

IF YOU LIVE IN THE E.U. (European Community) YOU CAN VOTE. (because of the right of reciprocity between EU countries).

Even if you don't understand Portuguese, you can use Google Translator to translate the petition and get the gist of it. On the top right of the page there's a green button "Assinar Petição" (SIGN PETITION). Then you will be asked to fill two mandatory fields: Complete Name and Email address. A third, optional field, will allow you to leave a comment. Eventually you will receive an email asking you to confirm your vote. Your email is kept confidential even from me.

YOUR VOTE HELPS because the more votes this petition gets, it will ensure we will be given an audience in the parliament to present our case.

Thank you

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PORTUGAL: Filed a petition to the parliament to erase the legal entity of the Jehovah's Witness

by EdenOne in

based on legal arguments that revolve around violations of several articles of the portuguese constitution, and of the law of religious freedom, a petition to the portuguese parliament has been set in motion to extinguish the legal entity that represents the jehovah's witness in portugal and remove this community from the national register of recognized religions protected by law.

the petition does not seek to ban the jehovah's witness as a whole in the country.

the petition denounces the institutional policy of shunning former members as a violation of basic human rights and psychological torture, and asks the portuguese legislators and judicial authorities to take action to stop this abuse, and suspend legal recognition to the branch office entity until the policies of shunning are changed.

EdenOne

Based on legal arguments that revolve around violations of several articles of the Portuguese Constitution, and of the Law Of Religious Freedom, a petition to the Portuguese parliament has been set in motion to extinguish the legal entity that represents the Jehovah's Witness in Portugal and remove this community from the national register of recognized religions protected by law. The petition does NOT seek to ban the Jehovah's Witness as a whole in the country. The petition denounces the institutional policy of shunning former members as a violation of basic human rights and psychological torture, and asks the Portuguese legislators and judicial authorities to take action to stop this abuse, and suspend legal recognition to the branch office entity until the policies of shunning are changed.

The petition is now gathering votes. 1000 votes ensure that the author(s) of the petition will be given an audience on the parliament to present their case; 4000 votes ensure that the parliament will debate the petition during its session.

You can view the petition here: http://peticaopublica.com/pview.aspx?pi=ExtRegistoATJ

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New Member Of The Governing Body 24 Jan 2018

by pale.emperor in

just seen this announced on reddit:.

ken cook was announced today at morning worship as the new member of the governing body.

i dont recall him from the broadcasts, but he was formally a helper on the writing committee as per https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body/.

EdenOne

More like "Broken news" ....

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Tom Petty has passed away

by sir82 in

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a12766936/tom-petty-critical-condition-cardiac-arrest/.

sad..

EdenOne

Truly one of the greatest. So sad to see him go.

"Into The Great Wide Open" remains one of my all-time favorite songs.

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How Jesus Became Christian

by EdenOne in

just wanted to share an interesting read.. i have purchased the ebook "how jesus became christian" by historian and philosopher barrie a. wilson.. it's a book by a scholar but it's not written in dense academic language, thus, is easily readable by the general public (unlike, for example, the incredibly dense "james, the brother of jesus", by robert eisenman).

in this book, wilson invites the reader to inquiry how the 'jesus movement' and his early followers, entirely part of the jewish framework, became metamorphosed into the 'christ movement' that rejected the torah, and was much more related to mystical religions of the greco-roman world.

how did this change came about?

EdenOne

we can appreciate that most religion in the west is deceptive.

I couldn't agree more. I think Wilson, and many other authors who have studied the historical Jesus stop short of saying that, but you can sense that's what they conclude also. They allow the reader to draw its own conclusions.

But I would go one further and say that every religion stemmimg from some sort of revelation / epiphany / special inspiration is deception.

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How Jesus Became Christian

by EdenOne in

just wanted to share an interesting read.. i have purchased the ebook "how jesus became christian" by historian and philosopher barrie a. wilson.. it's a book by a scholar but it's not written in dense academic language, thus, is easily readable by the general public (unlike, for example, the incredibly dense "james, the brother of jesus", by robert eisenman).

in this book, wilson invites the reader to inquiry how the 'jesus movement' and his early followers, entirely part of the jewish framework, became metamorphosed into the 'christ movement' that rejected the torah, and was much more related to mystical religions of the greco-roman world.

how did this change came about?

EdenOne

Just wanted to share an interesting read.

I have purchased the ebook "How Jesus Became Christian" by historian and philosopher Barrie A. Wilson.

It's a book by a scholar but it's not written in dense academic language, thus, is easily readable by the general public (unlike, for example, the incredibly dense "James, The Brother of Jesus", by Robert Eisenman). In this book, Wilson invites the reader to inquiry how the 'Jesus movement' and his early followers, entirely part of the jewish framework, became metamorphosed into the 'Christ movement' that rejected the Torah, and was much more related to mystical religions of the greco-roman world. How did this change came about? What role did Paul play on this? What is the "Jesus coverup thesis"? What happened to the historical Jesus and his group of followers led by James after his death? How does this relate with the development of antisemitism?

Although at times I wish the author was more thorough and less repetitive, his arguments are very persuasive and strongly anchored in solid evidence. As a lover of history of religion, I have found it a most interesting read, but here's a word of caution: If you're a Christian, it may well dismantle your pre-conceived notions about 'Jesus Christ The Savior', because the implications of this investigation are huge.

I strongly recommend this book.

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ANGOLA - JW Regional Convention target of attack.

by EdenOne in

according to news sources in luanda, angola (read it here, although it's in portuguese language), a regional convention of the jw's taking place this weekend at the outskirts of capital luanda was targeted yesterday, friday, by what may be described as a 'terrorist attack'.. more than 400 attendees (mostly female) passed out in rapid succession in the vicinity of a toilet at the convention place.

reportedly, toxic gas devices were planted there by 3 young members of unita, the main political party that opposed mpla, the dominant regime party in angola since its independence in 1975.

43 people were rushed to the hospital and a few remain there, under medical surveillance.

EdenOne

Deleted.

Darkspilver already noted that only 40+ were taken to the hospital, not the whole lot that fainted.

Plus, I have an independent confirmation of the incident directly from a sister in Angola, who posts in the portuguese forum.

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Female Perspective about WTS, marital relationship & control

by Muddy Waters in

despite my user name, am female.

i was not born-in, began studying when i was around 20, am 50 damn years old now and have spent almost the last 30 years in that stupid religion.

but here are some observations, make of them what you will.

EdenOne

Wow, I so wish I had seen this post three years ago ... :)

I was that husband you described and my wife was just as you described. Just like in "Killing Me Softly", reading through your post was like reading the chronicles of my JW marriage. Thank you for your insight.

Thankfully, at the end of the day my whole household exited the cult, but not without a lot of turmoil and grieving in between, and a lot of it is condensed in your words. YES, many JW husbands are cuckolds, because their spouses' prime loyalty is towards the Organization, and they are the GB's inside agent within the household to keep the hubby in check.

I couldn't have written it better if I wanted. Bravo and thank you.

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ANGOLA - JW Regional Convention target of attack.

by EdenOne in

according to news sources in luanda, angola (read it here, although it's in portuguese language), a regional convention of the jw's taking place this weekend at the outskirts of capital luanda was targeted yesterday, friday, by what may be described as a 'terrorist attack'.. more than 400 attendees (mostly female) passed out in rapid succession in the vicinity of a toilet at the convention place.

reportedly, toxic gas devices were planted there by 3 young members of unita, the main political party that opposed mpla, the dominant regime party in angola since its independence in 1975.

43 people were rushed to the hospital and a few remain there, under medical surveillance.

EdenOne

According to news sources in Luanda, Angola (read it here, although it's in Portuguese language), a regional convention of the JW's taking place this weekend at the outskirts of capital Luanda was targeted yesterday, friday, by what may be described as a 'terrorist attack'.

More than 400 attendees (mostly female) passed out in rapid succession in the vicinity of a toilet at the convention place. Reportedly, toxic gas devices were planted there by 3 young members of UNITA, the main political party that opposed MPLA, the dominant regime party in Angola since its independence in 1975. 43 people were rushed to the hospital and a few remain there, under medical surveillance. No deaths were reported.

The attack seems to be a retaliation for the fact that JW's do not vote - and Angola just underwent presidential elections during last week. 3 perpetrators were seized by the police while trying to change clothes at the convention hall, and 2 more are being hunted down.

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Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

by Isambard Crater in

that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

EdenOne

Those who "return to Jehovah", especially after having learned "the truth about the Truth" only prove that it's a lot easier to leave the religion than the religion leaving the individual.

And if "world crisis" triggers the fear of a nearing end of this "system of things", then it only goes to show how deeply successful is the brand of indoctrination practiced by the Jehovah's Witnesses.