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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

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  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  EdenOne

  I did give you a straight answer. My post #928.

  d) It's not God's business to exempt human beings from suffering that has always existed in nature. It is God's business to help people to cope with said suffering and to find comfort in a hope for salvation into a better life outside the physical realm.

  Sorry it doesn't fit in the usual theodicies you expected to encounter from your regular apologists. This works for me.

  And, btw, you haven't provided anything remotely close to a satisfactory retort, apart your head-scratching.

  Eden
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  New development in my life

  by EdenOne in

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  no longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.

  but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.

  and i mean no one.. eden.

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  EdenOne

  I really never "planned" on leaving, but I was slowly getting less "usable" as a MS, hoping that eventually it would lead to some loving counseling to get me producing more, but once that wouldn't work, it would lead me to resign, without dramas. Too late now.

  Eden
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  2596

  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  EdenOne

  Correct, Jgnat.

  Eden
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  New development in my life

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  no longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.

  but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.

  and i mean no one.. eden.

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  EdenOne

  This is a far more complex issue than most of you think it is...

  Planned incompetence was my plan, coupled with the demands of my work. But it all blew up when ....

  Eden
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  New development in my life

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  no longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.

  but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.

  and i mean no one.. eden.

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  EdenOne

  Jgnat you got a PM
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  2596

  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  EdenOne

  Jgnat,

  I think the terminology "Act of God" applied to an event like the Tsunamy is loaded language.

  I believe that if God knew beforehand about the tsunami or not is irrelevant. He wouldn't have acted to stop it. Because it's not His business to stop catastrophic natural events.

  Eden
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  EdenOne

  I thank him for the spirit that guides me to wisdom, which in turn allows me to run my business in a way that I can provide for my family.

  (I can see you revolving in your chair now)

  Lighten up, Cofty.

  Eden
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  New development in my life

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  no longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.

  but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.

  and i mean no one.. eden.

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  EdenOne

  No longer a MS ..........................

  Can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet. But, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one. And I mean NO ONE.

  Eden
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  2596

  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  EdenOne

  Cofty:

  But the god of theism made the world complete with earthquakes - it was his doing.

  God has given you a world that is essencially what you see and accept peacefully as being a product of random nature. What are you complaining about?

  Eden
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  EdenOne

  JGnat:

  Consider the destruction at Sodom and Gomorrah. Abraham was advised ahead of time, and an "escape plan" was arranged for the few righteous.

  There's a fundamental difference. In that case, it was an act of God. He was in control of the events, and he could forewarn Abraham, Lot, etc. The Tsunami was not act of God. It was simply a natural calamity.

  Eden