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  The Ravings of Trolls Distracts FOCUS From Real Watchtower Scandals

  by cofty in

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  my thread was inspired by gentledawn's insightful comment about the effect the events in wales had on her jw husband.... hope any lurkers out there can filter out the signal (storys and experiences like this) to noise (the current trolls running amok on the forums) ratios.

  this the problem with those who focus on outrageous fantasies about the watchtower.

  it distracts from the real issues that need to be highlighted.. what happened in wales was for real.

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  The Ravings of Trolls Distracts FOCUS From Real Watchtower Scandals

  by cofty in

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  2. scandals

  my thread was inspired by gentledawn's insightful comment about the effect the events in wales had on her jw husband.... hope any lurkers out there can filter out the signal (storys and experiences like this) to noise (the current trolls running amok on the forums) ratios.

  this the problem with those who focus on outrageous fantasies about the watchtower.

  it distracts from the real issues that need to be highlighted.. what happened in wales was for real.

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  People of average or better intelligence usually have no difficulty grasping what I write. They sure may not like it, but they do grasp it.

  Fallacy of Ridicule. Typical tactic of an intellectual bully.

  Go and get a broad education, preferably in the hard sciences, get a Ph.D. or two, first class degrees throughout, qualify in a couple of exacting professions, spend a lifetime in reading and deep thinking on a wide variety of subjects, and then come back.

  In what way acquiring the education you propose will ensure that someone will be less prone into buying into bullshit? Looking at your diatribes, it's hard not to conclude that you love buying into your own streak of bullshit. And, in what way having a lesser degree of education than the one you've suggested, or even a different type of education [say, in social sciences, for example], will cause someone to be unable to see through the WTS bullshit? To assume that someone cannot possibly reach sound conclusions unless they have the same academic input that some [i.e. you] have, is a fallacy known as Bulverism. You sure push the envelope on that particular one.

  It matters little how big your contribution to the debunking of the WTS mythology has been in the past. We get it: You're a rabid opponent to the WTS, and I'm sure you have many valid reasons, even personal ones for that. And surely there's a great deal of merit in your well-intended efforts. The man-hours you've put into it - if indeed you can provide evidence that you're the one who produced them in the first place, and I won't challenge that you have - have possibly served many into making an informed decision to leave the cult are surely appreciated. Thank you.

  But, having said that, you come across as a rabid lunatic troll. (Mind you, there are intellectualy brilliant lunatics). You want others to bow down to you as the uber-nemesis of the Governing Body. You will fail. And I will tell you why: You're uncapable of generating empathy. You naturally alienate everyone who doesn't lick your intellectual boots. I suspect that it matters little to you; people of your type thrive on confrontation. I've dealt with many in the past, and it's exhausting. They usually can win a debate simply by getting their opponents tired with their unstoppable verborhea. That's why this is the first and last time I will engage you. You have never experienced what it is to be one of the Jehovah's Witnesses. You haven't experienced yourself the emotional trauma, the overcoming of the doubts, the emotional rollercoaster of abandoning what we once considered "the truth"; you have never experienced the subtle cohertion of the peer pressure inside the Witnesses; You have never experienced the dreading fear of sitting before a Judicial Comittee. You have never experienced embracing the hope of an eternal life on earth (delusional as it may be), and then waking up from such sweet hope. You never experienced the love bombing in a time of emotional vulnerability, and later the loss of family and friends due to shunning. All the good and bad things of the experience of being one of the Jehovah's Witnesses - and then leaving - you have never experienced them in the flesh. If much, through others close to you, you may observe and vicariously experience it, but that's not the same, no, not at all.

  So please, excuse us if many of us here don't care much for your achievements. The thing is: Unquestionably, you make many good points about the WTS. Kudos to you, you've figured the WTS out. Many here have achieved the exact same results without needing a Phd. Therefore, your self-aggrandizing, self-serving ramblings, do much more harm to the ex-JW cause than any good. And for that, you're NOT welcome.

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  The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)

  by done4good in

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  i am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.

  many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.

  intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?

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  INTP here, tested 3 times over the course of 2 years ... nearly identical results everytime.

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  What's missing from this list of technologies used by JWs

  by scotoma in

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  this topic has been discussed before but it is interesting to look at it in the light of the new book god's kingdom rules.. 1903 news paper sermons.

  1914 photo drama of creation.

  1922 radio.

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  You forgot to mention MEPS - the multi-lingual composer/printing software.

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  The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)

  by done4good in

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  i am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.

  many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.

  intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?

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  Very interesting post, thank you.

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  IC 2014 talk: "A Century of Kingdom Rule Contrasted With a Century of Satan’s Rule"

  by AnnOMaly in

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  a discussion of this talk on friday morning deserves its own thread.

  as i said elsewhere, it was a remarkable one.

  the speaker was manfred vencebi (google him - he's a bethel bigwig) and some of his remarks are real gems.

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  Even my super-org-loyalist wife cringed at this one. When she came home she vented about it as one of the worst convention parts she has ever heard. Not only because of the content, but also because of the overall tone of the speaker (very evangelical-charismatic inflamated type), but also because it was delivered by someone who is a known GP doctor. Disgusting how can someone spew such nonsense and keep a straight face.

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  I am Back on JWN and out of hospital

  by KateWild in

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  hey everyone,.

  thanks qcf and nugget for starting threads.

  thanks cofty for wondering where i was.

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  Say hello when you fly over my House ;)

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  I never realized that Hitler's persecution of the Witnesses was worse than that of the Jews

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  'the terrible persecution of jehovahs witnesses by hitler, worse than that he inflicted on the jews, took place.

  '' wt 1966 15th oct page 635.

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  Kate Wild

  by quellycatface in

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  i've been given permission to post news of our friend.. kate hasn't been very well.

  not well at all.

  i think much of it has been a delayed reaction to her df'ing, the general fallout when leaving the wtbs and family issues.. i just wanted to give you guys the heads up and give you a chance to show how much we care about her.. thanks for listening..

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  (((hugs))) hang in there Kate. Every storm has a calm in the end. Besides nagging, we're here to support you as well :)

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  Just Realised I have been on here for 5 years now

  by cantleave in

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  how time flies......... ..... and armageddon still hasn't come..

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