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First President Of The Watchtower Society
by William Penwell in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i was reading on wikipedia about the watchtower society and it lists a william henry conley as the first president of the wt society (1881-1884).

i was wonder if this is correct and why the modern jw's have eliminated him from the societies history?

the only thing is the society was not incorporated till 1884 with russel as president.
EdenOne

The Watchtower started as Zion's Watchtower Tract Society in 1881, with William Conley as president and CT Russell as Treasurer. Conley was Russell's financial's backer but later they parted ways, amicably it seems. Russell then incorporated the Society in Pennsylvannia in 1884, becoming its president. In 1896 he changed its name to Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. In 1908, Russell transferred the Society to new headquarters in Brooklyn, New York, and the rest, as they say, is history.
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Setback
by EdenOne in
1. jw
2. experiences
i saw this coming since my mother-in-law's funeral .... the congregation's "love-bombing" over my wife had its impact.

i watched her drawing closer and closer to her friends in the congregation.

then she decided she would attend the memorial.
EdenOne

This will merit a separate thread, but for the time being, the news are:
My wife and I are openly discussing her fade from the Org! After nearly 5 months fully back into it, she has concluded that she cannot go back to see things as before, and she simply doesn't believe in it anymore.
I'm containing my joy, because, well... I've been disappointed before. But, give it some more time, and I'll be able to discuss it more freely.
:) :) :)
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Introducing Myself
by Peony in
1. jw
2. experiences
i've finally got round to joining the site (after over 2 years lurking!

i was born into jws, pioneered for 10 years (met my husband at pioneer school).

had health issues that saw me catapulted away from 'the centre of the cong' and wow what a different place that was!
EdenOne

Welcome, Peony! Great to hear about your experience, and it's great that both you and your husband left it together. We'd like to have your husband on board here as well!
Eden
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Setback
by EdenOne in
1. jw
2. experiences
i saw this coming since my mother-in-law's funeral .... the congregation's "love-bombing" over my wife had its impact.

i watched her drawing closer and closer to her friends in the congregation.

then she decided she would attend the memorial.
EdenOne

There are VERY VERY VERY positive developments !!!!!!
:)
Eden
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JEFFRO - What happened to him?
by EdenOne in
1. jw
2. friends
haven't seen jeffro in a few months.

i wonder if he's doing ok.. eden.
EdenOne

Hey, nice to hear from you again. Glad to know you're doing well. :)
Eden
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Judgement
by davidmitchell in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/2015-ewhc-1722-qb.pdfjust had a look at this 2015 legal judgement.

one of a number of things that caught my eye was the statement in (11) that "the organisational structure of jehovahs witnesses is modelled on first century christianity as described in the bible".er, hardly.

try acts 2: 44-45"all the believers were together and had everything in common.
EdenOne
On point 4, there's a most interesting statement from the judge:
The first defendants are the over-arching body of the second and third defendants. It is common ground that, if the second and/or third defendants are liable, then the first defendants will satisfy the judgment on behalf of the other defendants.
The first defendants are the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. The second defendants are the local congregation where the abuse took place. As it can be seen, it is established that the Watch Tower Society IS LIABLE for whatever happens within the congregations as a result of their directives and policies being followed.
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Beroean Pickets
by joe134cd in
1. watchtower
2. bible
hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.
EdenOne

I'm a subscriber of their emails and they're the only ones I never delete from my Yahoo account.
Some are better than others, but consistently my favorite writer is Meleti Vivlon.
Once I stopped considering the Bible as the word of God, I've become less enthusiastic about their points of view, but I must say they're razor sharp and know their Scriptures very well, and acutely deconstruct the doctrinal flaws promoted by the Governing Body using the Bible, which, regardless of anyone's current stand on the existence of God, is always a well worthy reading.
Alex, great to have you onboard here!
Eden
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John Oliver starts a new church ...
by EdenOne in
1. social
2. humour
here's john oliver's take on how easy it is for religions to fleece vulnerable people in the us.

i had a few good laughs, but it's seriously disturbing at the same time.

read the article, but don't miss the video, it's hilarious.. john oliver sets up his new church.
EdenOne

Here's John Oliver's take on how easy it is for religions to fleece vulnerable people in the US. I had a few good laughs, but it's seriously disturbing at the same time. Read the article, but don't miss the video, it's hilarious.

John Oliver sets up his new Church
Youtube Video
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After the 'imitate jesus' RC whats next...?
by _Morpheus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
imitate the desert god.

yep.

the ca for the upcoming year is entittled "imitate [insert desert god name]" so for the public at large its jesus but *wink wink* we really mean the desert god.
EdenOne

"Support the Brothers of Christ" - Convention 2016

One drama will be based on the fictional life story of the old widow who gave two small coins to the temple treasury; the other drama will be about King David allocating part of his wealth for the construction of Jehovah's temple in Jerusalem.
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Public talk: "God loves a cheerful giver" - 2 Cor 9:7
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New Light:
Romans 15:27 - "...in fact they are indebted to them, for if the Gentiles have come to share in their spiritual blessings, they ought also to serve them in material blessings."
The "other sheep" have been spiritually fed by the "spiritual Israel", so they must now serve them in return with material blessings. Contributions to the Organization will now be part of the monthly report slip. Whomever is found inactive or irregular in the privilege of contributing financially will face reproach and won't be eligible for congregational privileges.
*hint, hint*
Eden
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RELIGION IS.... (memes)
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
post a meme, original or not, about what you think religion is.

i'll start:.

eden.
EdenOne

Another one:

Eden