Posts by EdenOne

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First President Of The Watchtower Society

by William Penwell in

i was reading on wikipedia about the watchtower society and it lists a william henry conley as the first president of the wt society (1881-1884).

i was wonder if this is correct and why the modern jw's have eliminated him from the societies history?

the only thing is the society was not incorporated till 1884 with russel as president.

EdenOne

I suspect that the reason why Russell and Conley parted ways was due to some disagreement involving preacher George N. H. Peters, whose work Conley backed up through Zion's Watch Tower Society; however, in 1883 Zion's Watch Tower journal criticized George Peter's work and recommended its readers not to purchase it. I suspect that Russell wasn't pleased with this endorsement of doctrines he personally didn't agree with, no to mention that Conley had broader contacts with the Advent Christian circles that Russell denounced often, and so he and his former patron parted ways. Conley went to become a leading member of the Christian and Missionary Alliance until his death in 1897.

Naturally, this bit of Conley's history is something that the Governing Body wish no Jehovah's Witness was ever aware of.

Eden

37

Jehovah's people are the happiest people on earth!

by Coded Logic in

so this afternoon my roommate and i decided to go grab some dinner from the local chipotle and, as we live only a short distance from the franchise, we decided it was a good idea to walk.

little did i know that the j-dubs district convention here in sacramento was just getting out (the auditorium is literally smack in the middle of downtown and its attendees have to park in garages scattered a couple blocks away in every direction) so men in cheap suits and women in unflattering dress' were walking all over the place as though someone had antagonized their ungodly ant hill.

and, for sacramento, this of course is the complete opposite of the normative - that is to say, our streets are usually filled with well dressed, immaculately groomed, 'i know exactly where i'm going' government officials that monopolize the state capitol m-f. .

EdenOne

Jehovah's Witnesses lives are one big, failed advertising board of happiness detached from reality.

Only relatively few experience genuine happiness. Most experience a sort of kool-aid induced trip into a magical, imaginary spiritual paradise.

Eden

35

Cognitive Dissonance

by LexIsFree in

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the cognitive dissonance amongst jws has never been more obvious to me then what i just experience in the last 5 min.

long story short i had a phone conversation w/my mom about some things and i mentioned to her to look up what has been going on with their beloved organization in australia.

brother geoffrey jackson of the holy governing body was caught lying numerous times about several subjects including disassociations & shunning.

EdenOne

Denial as a sub product of Cognitive Dissonance?

Eden

47

Lurker - just joined

by Je.suis.oisif in

hi all, nothing to report just now.

wanted to add name to list of those awakening.

been lurking for nearly a year.

EdenOne

Hello and welcome J.S.Oisif

We hope you'll feel comfortable here, and be sure that you'll find plenty of support from great people. Looking forward to hear more from you.

Eden

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First President Of The Watchtower Society

by William Penwell in

i was reading on wikipedia about the watchtower society and it lists a william henry conley as the first president of the wt society (1881-1884).

i was wonder if this is correct and why the modern jw's have eliminated him from the societies history?

the only thing is the society was not incorporated till 1884 with russel as president.

EdenOne

The Watchtower started as Zion's Watchtower Tract Society in 1881, with William Conley as president and CT Russell as Treasurer. Conley was Russell's financial's backer but later they parted ways, amicably it seems. Russell then incorporated the Society in Pennsylvannia in 1884, becoming its president. In 1896 he changed its name to Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. In 1908, Russell transferred the Society to new headquarters in Brooklyn, New York, and the rest, as they say, is history.

Eden

91

Setback

by EdenOne in

i saw this coming since my mother-in-law's funeral .... the congregation's "love-bombing" over my wife had its impact.

i watched her drawing closer and closer to her friends in the congregation.

then she decided she would attend the memorial.

EdenOne

This will merit a separate thread, but for the time being, the news are:

My wife and I are openly discussing her fade from the Org! After nearly 5 months fully back into it, she has concluded that she cannot go back to see things as before, and she simply doesn't believe in it anymore.

I'm containing my joy, because, well... I've been disappointed before. But, give it some more time, and I'll be able to discuss it more freely.

:) :) :)

Eden

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Introducing Myself

by Peony in

i've finally got round to joining the site (after over 2 years lurking!

i was born into jws, pioneered for 10 years (met my husband at pioneer school).

had health issues that saw me catapulted away from 'the centre of the cong' and wow what a different place that was!

EdenOne

Welcome, Peony! Great to hear about your experience, and it's great that both you and your husband left it together. We'd like to have your husband on board here as well!

Eden

91

Setback

by EdenOne in

i saw this coming since my mother-in-law's funeral .... the congregation's "love-bombing" over my wife had its impact.

i watched her drawing closer and closer to her friends in the congregation.

then she decided she would attend the memorial.

EdenOne

There are VERY VERY VERY positive developments !!!!!!

:)

Eden

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JEFFRO - What happened to him?

by EdenOne in

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haven't seen jeffro in a few months.

i wonder if he's doing ok.. eden.

EdenOne

Hey, nice to hear from you again. Glad to know you're doing well. :)

Eden

11

Judgement

by davidmitchell in

https://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/2015-ewhc-1722-qb.pdfjust had a look at this 2015 legal judgement.

one of a number of things that caught my eye was the statement in (11) that "the organisational structure of jehovahs witnesses is modelled on first century christianity as described in the bible".er, hardly.

try acts 2: 44-45"all the believers were together and had everything in common.

EdenOne

On point 4, there's a most interesting statement from the judge:

The first defendants are the over-arching body of the second and third defendants. It is common ground that, if the second and/or third defendants are liable, then the first defendants will satisfy the judgment on behalf of the other defendants.

The first defendants are the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. The second defendants are the local congregation where the abuse took place. As it can be seen, it is established that the Watch Tower Society IS LIABLE for whatever happens within the congregations as a result of their directives and policies being followed.

Eden