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  SHUNNING - Unchristian Psychological Torture

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some time ago, i wrote an extensive article on shunning and published it on my website.

  since that website had views on doctrinal matters that no longer reflect my current stand, i took the website down.

  however, my views on this matter are still current, and for the benefit of everyone here, i'm going to post the article here.

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  By the way, I've been adding more and more material to the essay. It's now 97 pages long and I wonder if perhaps it will become a book.

  Your insights are welcome.

  Eden
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  SHUNNING - Unchristian Psychological Torture

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some time ago, i wrote an extensive article on shunning and published it on my website.

  since that website had views on doctrinal matters that no longer reflect my current stand, i took the website down.

  however, my views on this matter are still current, and for the benefit of everyone here, i'm going to post the article here.

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  From the perspective of a Jehovah's Witness the bible does justify shunning, and you cannot prove it doesn't.

  Yes, I can. Refer to chapter 8 of my article and you'll see it debunked. The only way a Jehovah's Witness can use the Bible to justify shunning in he way its taught by the Organization is by quote mining and ignoring historical evidence. The problem is the following: The implication of accepting what the history and serious textual analysis and contextual analysis tells you is that one would have to abandon the two hopes theology. And I'm quite sure the Watchtower Society isn't ready to go down that route. If there's ONE thing that may be argued in terms of shunning as having PERHAPS some scriptural backing is in what concerns "antichrists". As I argue in chapter 8, even that interpretation is very doubtful because the scope is limited to Christian gatherings.

  You cannot prove shunning is unscriptural or wrong

  Actually I can prove that is unscriptural AND wrong. More: I'd argue that it should be unlawful. Refer to chapter 2 of my article to see scientific evidence.

  What I cannot do is persuade those who are resolved to hate and discriminate against others. That, sadly, I cannot do. But I can attempt to offer some education in hopes they may change.

  Giordano: If your interested and need help researching him let me know.

  Yes, I am. Please contact me.

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  Bible Versus Quran Experiment - Genius!

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  absolutely brilliant social experiment.

  enjoy.. ....

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  Nice little experiment. Just goes to say how little Christians know about their Bible and how much stereotype is there against Islam.

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  I've begun reading the Qur'an

  by nicolaou in

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  i've reached the point where i feel legitimate comment needs to be backed by knowledge of the source.. i'll post occasional updates on how i'm doing and what i'm learning .

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  I have the Quram on my shelve ... never opened it.

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  In the Shadow of Sin-Portuguese documentary

  by the girl next door in

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  2. scandals

  https://youtu.be/8ue3--fnsh8.

  the portuguese channel tvi in portugal, broadcast this documentary in october 2015 about jehovah's witnesses.

  child abuse, shunning, blood transfusions and many other topics were mentioned in this report.the documentary makers asked for a response from the leadership of jehovahs witnesses to the damaging statements made by survivors of child abuse and domestic violence.

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  I think the follow up is more powerful and damaging than the original work!

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  Which Spiritual belief system or non belief system is right for you?

  by Giordano in

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  we have done this before but we have a fair number of newbie's on this site and some are struggling with the question about other belief systems and non belief.

  where are you now in your own mind?

  here's a quiz http://www.selectsmart.com/nontheism/ that is pretty accurate, at least in my case as to where i am at this point in my life.

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  Hey, it's their definition, not mine...

  I sit squarely on the agnostic / apatheist camp, although I have no idea what "strong agnostic" is supposed to mean. Maybe that I can lift a ton of doubts?

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  INSPIRED ERROR: new phrase among JW CO

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  there is no end to their madness.

  the co gave a talk on inspired error.

  i have never heard of it.

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  He must have meant "inspired by demons" in the sense of Revelation 16:13, 14

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  Which Spiritual belief system or non belief system is right for you?

  by Giordano in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we have done this before but we have a fair number of newbie's on this site and some are struggling with the question about other belief systems and non belief.

  where are you now in your own mind?

  here's a quiz http://www.selectsmart.com/nontheism/ that is pretty accurate, at least in my case as to where i am at this point in my life.

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  I got 100% strong agnostic

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  In the Shadow of Sin-Portuguese documentary

  by the girl next door in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://youtu.be/8ue3--fnsh8.

  the portuguese channel tvi in portugal, broadcast this documentary in october 2015 about jehovah's witnesses.

  child abuse, shunning, blood transfusions and many other topics were mentioned in this report.the documentary makers asked for a response from the leadership of jehovahs witnesses to the damaging statements made by survivors of child abuse and domestic violence.

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  Well, I saw the video on the day after it was shown on TVI. I think it felt short, it could have been much more powerful. They inserted too much abstract footage and music as fillers and left a lot of substance out. Nevertheless it was factually correct, which is a rare thing in investigative journalism in Portugal when it comes to JWs. The most powerful moments were when José Carlos Malato (portuguese TV personality, whom I knew when I was a kid) spoke about his experience and how he struggled with his homosexuallity within the JWs; and also when three JWs disassociated live on camera. Apart from that, I have found it a bit of a missed opportunity. In any case, I know it shook a few people.

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  The watchtowers view on Rape!!! must see

  by Khaleesi in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this person did a great job putting this together... i am disgusted with wt policies & them acting both judge & jurywatch "noonespecial - rapists - jw" on .

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  https://youtu.be/lwufz7gyozm.

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  That was VERY disturbing.

  Eden