Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

johnamos

it seems very loathsome that they then judge other religions that don't use that particular pronunciation.

That's because they are 'loathsome' people.

Adonai + YHWH became Yehowah. And Yehowah became Jehovah.

First off there is no E in Adonai so to think that the name Yehowah/Jehovah came about by using the vowels from Adonai to pronounce YHVH does not hold water.

Regardless, putting the pronunciation/spelling of God's name aside for the moment, I have shown that there are many Hebrew names that use part of יהוה as either a prefix or suffix. These names never stopped being pronounced. The spelling of these Hebrew names did not come about because of word Adonai or a Monk as said to be the case with God's name.

It only stands to reason that if these names are said to mean things like:

[YHVH has judged, YHVH will raise, YHVH is salvation, YHVH has remembered, YHVH has comforted, YHVH is exalted]

then the same way that the part of God's name that is spelled/pronounced in those names should also be the way God's name is spelled/pronounced, which would be יהו Yeho + ה ah = Yehoah/Jehoah.

Jehoshaphat - Jeremiah

Jehoiakim - Isaiah

Jehoram - Nehemiah

Jehoiachin - Zechariah

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Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

johnamos

יהוה

Y י

H ה

V ו (Holding marker for O or U)

H ה

YeHOshua

יהושע

YeHO

יהו

YshaYaH (Isaiah)

ישעיה

YaH

יה

YeHOaH

יהוה

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Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

johnamos

Considering that they all end their prayers with something like : "We send this prayer through Jesus, Aman", I actually don't see anything wrong with their teaching.

That is a fair and balance statement to make.

a name made up in the 12th century. The name Jehovah isn't God's name

This statement however is unfounded. The only argument I would make about that being God's name is that there is no V in it. It should be spelled Jehoah.

To believe that that name was made up in the 12th century would mean that every Hebrew name that contains the יהוה (YHVH) as either with the prefix יהו (YHV) or the suffix יה (YH) was also made up then too.

Yes it is true the over time Y's were changed to J's and I's but that doesn't change the basis for the the vowels used in these names and how they would be spoken in today's English.

These names were never stopped being pronounced and replaced with LORD (adon).

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Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

johnamos

He came up with the name 'Jehovah'!

So he is the reason that when writing out in English the Hebrew name of this book why it's spelled Yehoshua??

https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/15785#lt=both

Likewise, he is the reason why this Hebrew name is spelled this way in English??

Tzefaniah - Zephaniah

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Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

johnamos

They had no thought of a Jehovah`s Kingdom.

24 Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power.+ 25 For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet.+ 26 And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing.+ 27 For God “subjected all things under his feet.”+ But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’+ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him.+ 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him,+ that God may be all things to everyone.+

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Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

johnamos

It is a made up name from about the 12th or 13th century that took the tetragrammaton (YHWH) and combined the vowel structure of the word Adonai ("Lord").

Are any of these names made up from the 12th or 13th century combined with the vowel structure of the word Adonai?

Jehoshaphat - Jeremiah

Jehoiakim - Isaiah

Jehoram - Nehemiah

Jehoiachin - Zechariah

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Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

johnamos

- feel free to correct me where I`m wrong with this post. –

- The Bible never says anything about a Kingdom of Jehovah –

44 “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom+ that will never be destroyed.+

9 “You must pray, then, this way:+ “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name+ be sanctified.+ 10 Let your Kingdom+ come. Let your will+ take place, as in heaven, also on earth

- Christians are to give honour and glory to none other than Jesus Christ . That is the name that is above any other name until God says otherwise. Phil.2:9-11 Not the name Jehovah .-

31 And look! you will become pregnant* and give birth to a son,+ and you are to name him Jehoshua (יהושע) - Jehoah (יהוה) is Salvation

22 For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son,+ 23 so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him

31 When, therefore, he had gone out, Jesus said: “Now the Son of man is glorified,+ and God is glorified in connection with him.* 32 God himself will glorify him,+ and he will glorify him immediately.

1 Jesus spoke these things, and raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your son so that your son may glorify you,+ 2 just as you have given him authority over all flesh,+ so that he may give everlasting life+ to all those whom you have given to him.+ 3 This means everlasting life,+ their coming to know you, the only true God,+ and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.+ 4 I have glorified you on the earth,+ having finished the work you have given me to do.+ 5 So now, Father, glorify me at your side with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was.+ 6 “I have made your name manifest* to the men whom you gave me out of the world.+ They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word. 7 Now they have come to know that all the things you gave me are from you; 8 because I have given them the sayings that you gave me,+ and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I came as your representative,+ and they have believed that you sent me.

20 “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, 21 so that they may all be one,+ just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you,+ that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me.

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I'm not into conspiracy theories, but Google FEMA clergy response team. Would WT. throw the R&F under the bus to save it's own skin

by nowwhat? in

correct me if i'm wrong but about the same time this was activated was when the wt.

came out with the "we may receive instructions that may not seem practical from a human standpoint".

and it has been emphasized greatly regarding covid measures that "we must obey the superior authorities".

johnamos

Correct me if I'm wrong ~~but about the same time this was activated was when the wt~~ Sandy, but if I kill all the golfers they'll lock me up and throw away the key.

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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!

by Beth Sarim in

i don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.

omg!!!

just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.

johnamos

Neither. Jehoiakim reigned for about 11 years from 628-618 BCE and this is the best one can hope for.

Wow you really show your true colors here...it doesn't matter to you what the Bible actually says but instead only what the WTS says.

The Bible says he reigned for 11 years, not '10 years' or 'about 11 years':

[Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 1 p. 1268 - Jehoiakim’s bad rule of about 11 years (628-618 B.C.E.) was marked by injustices, oppression, and murder. (2Ch 36:5; Jer 22:17; 52:2)]

[2 Chronicles 36:5 Je·hoiʹa·kim+ was 25 years old when he became king, and he reigned for 11 years in Jerusalem. He continued to do what was bad in the eyes of Jehovah his God.]

[2 Kings 23: 36 Je·hoiʹa·kim+ was 25 years old when he became king, and he reigned for 11 years in Jerusalem.+]

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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!

by Beth Sarim in

i don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.

omg!!!

just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.

johnamos

You misunderstand. Jehoiakim's reign was from 628-618 BCE and he was taken captive by Neb along with Daniel and others in 617 BCE which was in the 8th Neb's reign.

First let’s keep in mind that depending on the writer and based on what calendar they used and if they are counting from the assertion year or not, that the years we are speaking of are going to keep varying by 1 year. But let’s try to make a clearer picture to these dates so that we can reference to them better.

You have acknowledged above that Jehoiakim's reign was from 628-618, but the following states that he reigned for 11 years and 628-618 is only 10 years so his correct years would have to be 629-618 or 628- 617:

[36 Je·hoiʹa·kim+ was 25 years old when he became king, and he reigned for 11 years in Jerusalem.+]

Please answer the following question so we can begin to get a clearer picture of dates/timeframe.

The following the WTS says that 625 is Jehoiakim’s 4th year:

[Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 1 p. 1268-1269 -The fourth year of the reign of Jehoiakim (625 B.C.E.) saw Nebuchadnezzar defeat Pharaoh Necho in a battle over the domination of Syria-Palestine.]

Based on them saying 625 is his 4th year and the Scripture saying he reigned for 11 years…what years do you say are the correct years:

629-618 or 628- 617?

This is not a trick question, whatever one you say we will use it as our foundation.

johnamos

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