johnamos
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The Bread Illustration (Feb 16 Broadcast) - Massive Contradiction
by fizzle inso... bro flodin puts poison onto the first loaf of bread and says that this pictures someone "sinning against the holy spirit".
he then puts the bread into the trash can stating that jehovah completely discards anyone "sinning against the holy spirit"... meaning they cannot ever be forgiven...he says that the pharisees "sinned against the holy spirit" because they denied indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit displayed by jesus... therefore jehovah would completely discard them... no way back for them.. fast forward a little... we have the bible character stephen...acts 6:8 says: now stephen, full of divine favor and power, was performing great wonders and signs among the people.so stephen was showing indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit.now we come to the bible character paul (saul)... he was a pharisee.paul would have seen stephen in action... witnessing the indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit first hand!yet paul not only waged war against all christians but he personally approved the killing (stoning) of stephen.according to the bread illustration paul should have been discarded by jehovah at this point for "sinning against the holy spirit"... he would have been put in the trash can... no way back at all...but what happened according to the bible?
jesus appeared to him on the road to damascus... he became one of the most zealous apostles in bible history with jehovah's full support!so what on earth is the bread illustration all about?
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johnamos
1 Timothy 1:12 I (Paul) am grateful to Christ Jesus our Lord, who imparted power to me, because he considered me faithful by assigning me to a ministry, 13 although formerly I was a blasphemer and a persecutor and an insolent man. Nevertheless, I was shown mercy, because I was ignorant and acted with a lack of faith. 14 But the undeserved kindness of our Lord abounded exceedingly along with faith and love that is in connection with Christ Jesus. 15 Faithful and deserving of full acceptance is the saying that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners. Of these I am foremost. 16 Nevertheless, the reason why I was shown mercy was that by means of me as the foremost case Christ Jesus might demonstrate all his long-suffering for a sample of those who are going to rest their faith on him for everlasting life. -
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johnamos
they show how children should sacrifice their own ice cream money -- then, poof -- out goes some perfectly good bread that he deliberately mucked up for some totally lame demonstration....!!!!!
They actually did not throw any of it away…they are breaking them up in smaller pieces and selling them on e-bay.
And the other loaves probably got thrown out too afterward, after he grimed it all up in his hands... -
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Will any of you post here if you hear anything in this coming Thursday (1-14-16) meeting in regards to 2-go-bags being pushed again… -
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Half of the cong was dancing last night
by StarTrekAngel inso went to the meeting last night.
i had not been to one since before the holiday break (3 weeks ago).
besides, it was our first meeting in the new format.
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johnamos
StarTrekAngel - Is there a reason that the elder mentioned about the Passover being done a month later instead of Nisan 14?
The reason I ask is because this year JW’s will have the memorial on March 23 which will be Nisan 14…but my calendar shows the Passover this year will be April 22.
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Does anyone have the original copy of the Awake 2015 Jan before it was changed?
by jwfacts injan used a famous scientist to garner misleading support for creation, quoting rama singh as saying "the opposition to evolution goes beyond religious fundamentalism and includes a great many people from educated sections of the population.
2015 jan p.3) whilst the quote is accurate, it misrepresents singh's intention.
singh continues in the same paragraph, "there are several reasons why facts of evolution are not easily comprehensible by the general masses.
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johnamos
1-1-03 WT- [A THEATER critic for a newspaper once went to see a certain play. He did not much like it and afterward wrote: “If triviality is what you happen to be wanting, by all means go and see this play.” Later, the promoters of the play published an advertisement that featured a quote from the critic’s review. The quote was: “By all means go and see this play”! The advertisement accurately quoted the critic’s words, but it lifted them out of context and thus grossly misrepresented his view.That example illustrates how important the context of a statement can be. Taking words out of context can distort their meaning, just as Satan distorted the meaning of Scripture when he tried to mislead Jesus. (Matthew 4:1-11) On the other hand, taking the context of a statement into account helps us to get a more accurate understanding of its meaning.]
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1 Thessalonians 5: 3 "Peace and Safety". What wrong with this picture?
by James Mixon inso jehovah is against peace and safety here on earth.
is he jealous because beelzebub.
is bring peace something the all knowing couldn't do.. think about it, if we were at the threshold of peace here on earth and god says hell no i will.
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johnamos
Yes, you understood me correctly…
Right now in this world the way it is now there are people (many people) that will not steal from one another (break in your house, take your car, rob you at gun point for your wallet, etc…) and won’t rape another person (an adult or an child) or murder…so on and so on, basically all the crimes that land people in jail, things that you yourself would view as being crimes.
If there was a large Island with no people on it but 250,000 people were gather together (people that would not commit such crimes) and relocated to that Island and on it they would have on it all the resources that they needed to live…picture that scenario, etc…
Now picture just 50,000 people that would commit all of the said crimes now being relocated to this Island…does that not change your original scenario?
It would be great if just by verbally asking these 50,000 before they step off the boat onto the Island to PLESE not commit any said crimes and they said OK we won’t and that’s that…but if they did not refrain from committing these crimes based on your asking them not to, then what do you suppose should be done to any of these said 50,000 as they individually started committing these crimes against the 250,000???
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Can my friend be DFd for dating a non witness and wanting to get married to him
by cognitivedizzy indear all, need some advice .
in my country one can get dfd for pretty much anything the bullies want to df you for.
but is there any specific guidelines that state one can or cannot be dfd for marrying a non witness.
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johnamos
Can my friend be DFd for dating a non witness and wanting to get married to him
If your friend is a HIM as well then YES but if not then NO, just MARKED or private/public reproof...
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1 Thessalonians 5: 3 "Peace and Safety". What wrong with this picture?
by James Mixon inso jehovah is against peace and safety here on earth.
is he jealous because beelzebub.
is bring peace something the all knowing couldn't do.. think about it, if we were at the threshold of peace here on earth and god says hell no i will.
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johnamos
Certainly you know the WTS/GB (JW’s) are in-correct in what they believe and teach...As far as it being just or not for God to annihilate those he will end up doing so to (whatever the number will end up being), you and everyone on this board agree that it is necessary.
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1 Thessalonians 5: 3 "Peace and Safety". What wrong with this picture?
by James Mixon inso jehovah is against peace and safety here on earth.
is he jealous because beelzebub.
is bring peace something the all knowing couldn't do.. think about it, if we were at the threshold of peace here on earth and god says hell no i will.
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johnamos
The scripture that you are thinking of has to do with turning on BTG, not the two witnesses.
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1 Thessalonians 5: 3 "Peace and Safety". What wrong with this picture?
by James Mixon inso jehovah is against peace and safety here on earth.
is he jealous because beelzebub.
is bring peace something the all knowing couldn't do.. think about it, if we were at the threshold of peace here on earth and god says hell no i will.
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johnamos
1 Thessalonians 5:3 Whenever it is that they are saying: “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape.
The timing of when the above is said has to do with when the two witnesses are killed.
Revelation 11:7 And when they have finished their witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will make war with them and conquer them and kill them. 8 And their corpses will be on the broad way of the great city which is in a spiritual sense called Sod´om and Egypt, where their Lord was also impaled. 9 And those of the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations will look at their corpses for three and a half days, and they do not let their corpses be laid in a tomb. 10 And those dwelling on the earth rejoice over them and enjoy themselves, and they will send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those dwelling on the earth.
The sudden destruction that occurs is upon the 8th king and it’s supporters.