Good point Blondie and what about "inactive" apostates and "ones" who are NOT trying to lead others into sin???
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No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones
by AverageJoe1 innew letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).
february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.
re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.
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No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones
by AverageJoe1 innew letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).
february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.
re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.
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New letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, I also noticed they got the date wrong!)
February 28, 2017
TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS
Re: Visiting Disfellowshipped or Disassociated Individuals
Dear Brothers:
In recent years, many disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals have returned to Jehovah after having seen Jehovah’s Witnesses carrying out their ministry in public places. Others have approached the elders after reading a copy of the Return to Jehovah brochure or watching JW Broadcasting. (Luke 15:7) With such factors in mind, the Governing Body has determined that there is no longer a need for a formal arrangement to visit disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals each year.
Rather, elders should use good judgment in determining when and how to make brief contact with disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals. For example, if a disfellowshipped individual gives some evidence of changing his ways, an elder could remind the individual of how he can return to Jehovah. Such brief contact could be made while an elder engages in the house-to-house ministry. While shopping, an elder may see a disfellowshipped person who has not been contacted in years and choose to approach him. An older or infirm elder may find it more practical to make contact by telephone.
Elders should keep the coordinator of the body of elders updated when such contact is made. Of course, contact should not be made with active apostates, with those who are trying to lead others into sin, or with those who have made it known that they want nothing to do with the Christian congregation.
This direction replaces what is stated in the Shepherding textbook, chapter 10, paragraph 1. Each elder should cross that paragraph out and make the following notation in the margin: “See letter dated February 28, 2017, to all bodies of elders.”
This letter has been added to the list of policy letters cited in Index to Letters for Bodies of Elders (S-22).
We send our warm Christian love.
Your brothers,
c: Circuit Overseers
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JW.ORG Now requires personal address
by AverageJoe1 inlogging on to the user area access today, there appeared a message saying that they now require a postal and physical home address to attach to your profile, with a note saying that the branch may change the details as they see fit.
this raises several questions in my mind:.
why would they need to have your physical address on file?.
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UPDATE: A new letter just got sent out today "explaining" the changes. Keep your eyes peeled on avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter. In the meantime, here's what they say:
February 27, 2017
TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS
Re: Personal Addresses and Adjustments to Coordinator of the Body of Elders or Secretary
Dear Brothers:
We are pleased to inform you of two features that are now available on jw.org.
Managing Personal Addresses: Most jw.org users who have been added to the jw.org congregation domain can now manage their personal address information using the “My User Profile” link under the “My Preferences” section of the “Administration” tab. Each user’s profile includes a “My Personal Addresses” section with a link that allows him to enter or update his addresses. For more information on how to use this feature, click on “Help.” Please note that addresses for some jw.org users are maintained by the branch office and cannot be edited online.
Informing the Service Department of a Change in Coordinator of the Body of Elders or Secretary: An online version of the Coordinator of the Body of Elders/Secretary Change of Address (S-29) form can now be accessed by elders who have been assigned the “Enter Member Information” role. This feature can be found using the “Elders and Servants” link under the “Members” section of the “Congregation” tab. When this feature is used, it is not necessary to send a printed or PDF version of the S-29 form to the Service Department. For more information on how to use this feature, click on “Help.”
We trust that these new features will be of benefit to you. We send our warm Christian love and best wishes.
Your brothers,
c: Circuit overseers
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The Study edition of Luke NWT Now on JW.ORG...great, now they dig even deeper into the pile of muck
by NikL inso had to check it out to see what it's all about.. what i got was more cloudiness.
as in luke 2:9.... suddenly jehovah’s angel stood before them, and jehovah’s glory gleamed around them, and they became very fearful.
the notes point out.... jehovah’s angel: this expression occurs many times in the hebrew scriptures, starting at ge 16:7. when it occurs in early copies of the septuagint, the greek word agʹge·los (angel; messenger) is followed by the divine name written in hebrew characters.
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In the Kingdom Interlinear (I have the hardback version but you can download it in the JW App) you can see the literal English translation and you will see that Jehovah's name is not mentioned in many instances... and that's in one of their own publications. Most JWs won't even pick that up though.
Ephesians 6:4 KI:
And the fathers, not be YOU provoking to wrath the children of YOU, but be YOU nourishing out them in discipline and putting mind in of Lord. (Κυρίου)
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Looking for the entire 1954 Watchtower Bound Volume IN SPANISH
by ILoveTTATT2 inhi everyone,.
for an incredible amount of topics (vaccinations, worship of jesus, among others), the 1954 bound volume of the watchtower in spanish would be incredibly valuable to me.. does anyone have a scan of it or could send/sell it to me?.
please let me know.. thanks!.
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I didn't get chance this morning as I was a bad boy and stayed in bed! I will have a look this week though. -
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JW.ORG Now requires personal address
by AverageJoe1 inlogging on to the user area access today, there appeared a message saying that they now require a postal and physical home address to attach to your profile, with a note saying that the branch may change the details as they see fit.
this raises several questions in my mind:.
why would they need to have your physical address on file?.
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@ttdtt Again your congregation domain administrators assign you the admin stuff you can see. Elders have access to most things whilst servants will only access the literature admin if they work in that department.
If you have admin access, then click the Admin tab. If you still don't see it, then maybe it's just a weird requirement here in Spain to do with the LOPD (Ley orgánica de protección de datos.)
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JW.ORG Now requires personal address
by AverageJoe1 inlogging on to the user area access today, there appeared a message saying that they now require a postal and physical home address to attach to your profile, with a note saying that the branch may change the details as they see fit.
this raises several questions in my mind:.
why would they need to have your physical address on file?.
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AverageJoe1
No Carla but to access all the admin stuff you need an account which will be then approved by the domain administrators in the congregation.
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Looking for the entire 1954 Watchtower Bound Volume IN SPANISH
by ILoveTTATT2 inhi everyone,.
for an incredible amount of topics (vaccinations, worship of jesus, among others), the 1954 bound volume of the watchtower in spanish would be incredibly valuable to me.. does anyone have a scan of it or could send/sell it to me?.
please let me know.. thanks!.
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AverageJoe1
I will have a look at the library in the Spanish Congs in our hall and see if there's a copy that I can borrow and scan.
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Interesting conversation with a JDub regarding kingdom songs.
by joe134cd inwas out side a jdubs house while they were playing kingdom songs.
this is how the conversation went.. me: did you realize that one of their kingdom songs was a copy from the jurassic park theme song.. jdub: where did you find this.
me: hey i've got the down load to the movie, and that theme song has a striking resemblance to that song you just played.
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AverageJoe1
Well the old "We thank you Jehovah" that is still sung today still starts out like the British National Anthem!
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ARC report released today.. and phew!
by zeb in"the response of the jehovah’switnesses and watchtower bibleand tract society of australialtd to allegations of childsexual abuse".. this report is 110 pages.
it is imperative to look it up on the arc website each and every one of you.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/getattachment/c2d1f1f5-a1f2-4241-82fb-978d072734bd/report-of-case-study-no-29.
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AverageJoe1
Released today? That was released back in October of last year! It is an excellent report and is an official book (as it has an ISBN number as well). Well worth taking the time to read through. I read it and underlined it during several meetings at the KH. If it's one thing I've learned from the WTS, it's to underline well!!! :)
They ARC first released a preliminary report after the case, after which the WTS presented their rebuttal basically going against everything Geoff Jackson said at the hearing.
Then a few months back the ARC presented their final report taking into account the WTS rebuttal and this is what has provoked another hearing, due to start a week on Monday.
Here are the official links just in case you want to share them with an active JW who is freaked out by "apostate" info so they should accept this as coming from an official government legal site. The files are in PDF format.
3) ARC's Final Report: http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/getattachment/c2d1f1f5-a1f2-4241-82fb-978d072734bd/Report-of-Case-Study-No-29
HERE IS THE OFFICIAL SITE FOR THE NEXT HEARING ON MONDAY 6TH MARCH 2017: