Posts by AverageJoe1

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"The last DAYS?"

by eyeuse2badub in

i was asked last sunday, after a meeting that i attended with my wife, by a good friend if i believed that these were indeed the "last days".

what prompted his question was the public talk given by a young man that i have known since he was 7 years old and is now an elder at 30.. the talk made mention several times that we are 'definitely' living in the "last days".

i assume that the expression "last days" was prominent in the outline.. i hope that he way i answered my friend's question jump started his thinking.

AverageJoe1

Excellent reasoning, @Sir82! I might use that one myself.

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Wasted A #@$%&!** Day

by FedUpJW in

well i got to waste another day.

for the sake of still in family i attended the circuit assembly.

they say a joy shared is doubled, and a burden shared is halved.

AverageJoe1

I guess they never heard of a GREEN light! I'd hate to be behind these nitwits if they were driving.

@FedupJW

Unfortunately I HAVE! It's even worse when they are behind YOU though!

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AverageJoe1-Here is Your Video!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

averagejoe1here is that kms-no.14 spanish video you requested.

(how to achievenaturalness) david......forgot his last name, but anyway.https://we.tl/wclcdjbpceatlantis!.

AverageJoe1

By the way, do you know if anyone has a copy of the Spanish version of The Watchtower dated 1st January 1989. I have the (edited) bound volume copy. I'm after the unedited single magazine copy. The reason is for the quote that the preaching work would be finished by the end of 1999 (or by the end of the 20th century, which is the same thing).

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AverageJoe1-Here is Your Video!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

averagejoe1here is that kms-no.14 spanish video you requested.

(how to achievenaturalness) david......forgot his last name, but anyway.https://we.tl/wclcdjbpceatlantis!.

AverageJoe1

Thanks Atlantis!!!!!! :)

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Need Kingdom Ministry Lapel Badge-Spanish!

by Atlantis in

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friends

does anyone have a copy of the kingdom ministry school lapel badge in spanish?

if so, please send me a pm or post a download link below.

atlantis!.

AverageJoe1

Yes. The COBE in each cong usually fills them out and prints them.

29

R & B Soul on JW.org

by silentbuddha in

i remember getting my ass beat .

in 1987 / 1988 for listening to atlantic star.

they had a song called always.. my mother sat me down anmd told me listening to music like that would just rile up my emotions and make me look for a girl to fornicate with.. like at the age of 10 i was going to take it to that level.. my mother later banned r and b from our home.... i find it all hilarious now, but a friend of mine actually sent me a link to the jw broadcast and said i had to watch this.. i told him there was no way, but he said just start at the 50:40 mark.. i do not believe that this is what the org is doing now???.

AverageJoe1

Don't forget that back in the 80s some "progressive" JWs distributed recordings of Kingdom Songs with modern beats and that was disapproved of by the Watchtower.

Hypocrites! Typical of the GB though: criticise what other religions do, then when they realise it's a good thing or money-spinner, they start doing it!

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Sign JW Data Protection Form Or Else!

by AverageJoe1 in

in spain (and the rest of europe), the "improved" data protection laws come into force on 25th may 2018. this is a good thing and sadly america is still lagging behind; not surprising with their current president!.

watchtower legal department are hot on the case and have instructed elders to hand out the new "release" forms out to all the publishers in their groups, whilst making it clear to them that they won't have any privileges if they refuse to do so!.

note these points in the instructions:.

AverageJoe1

The surprise, Scratchme is them telling you it will be transmitted to other countries with crappy Data Protection laws... like America for example.

My company’s Data Protection Policy clearly states that our customers Data WON’T be transferred to countries who don’t use the same standards of Data Protection.

Its not obligatory for an organisation to pass your data to their offices in other countries. Plus you can clearly state to a company that you don’t want your data being used outside the EU. Not so with the WT.

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Sign JW Data Protection Form Or Else!

by AverageJoe1 in

in spain (and the rest of europe), the "improved" data protection laws come into force on 25th may 2018. this is a good thing and sadly america is still lagging behind; not surprising with their current president!.

watchtower legal department are hot on the case and have instructed elders to hand out the new "release" forms out to all the publishers in their groups, whilst making it clear to them that they won't have any privileges if they refuse to do so!.

note these points in the instructions:.

AverageJoe1

In Spain (and the rest of Europe), the "improved" Data Protection Laws come into force on 25th May 2018. This is a good thing and sadly America is still lagging behind; not surprising with their current president!

Watchtower Legal department are hot on the case and have instructed elders to hand out the new "release" forms out to all the publishers in their groups, whilst making it clear to them that they won't have any privileges if they refuse to do so!

Note these points in the instructions:

REFUSAL TO CONSENT
10. An adult publisher might initially refuse to sign the Notice and Consent for Use of Personal Data (S-290) form. If this occurs, an elder should take the time to answer any questions the publisher may have. Often, a clear explanation can help the publisher to feel comfortable with providing consent. However, the publisher should not feel pressured to sign the form. If consent for the use of personal data is not provided, the affected individual may remain a publisher (baptised or unbaptised) and the congregation may keep his personal data related to his activity as a publisher, including the information recorded on the Congregation’s Publisher Record (S-21) card. However, the individual should be informed that the congregation or branch office may not be able to evaluate his suitability to fill certain roles within the congregation or participate in many congregation activities, such as serving as a regular pioneer, a ministerial servant, or an elder. His name or other personal data should not be posted on the information board, be entered on the jw.org website, or appear in any correspondence sent via jw.org e-mail. However, his limited personal data from the Congregation’s Publisher Record (S-21) card could be used on internal congregation documents. Additionally, if the congregation’s meetings are recorded for the purpose of being uploaded to JW Stream, the publisher could not be recorded in such congregation meetings.
11. A parent or legal guardian might refuse to sign the Notice and Consent for Use of Personal Data form for a publisher who is a minor. If the minor is an unbaptised publisher, no personal data should be collected for him. Nor should a Congregation’s Publisher Record card be kept for him. The report of field service activity may be collected from the minor as long as his name is not written on the report. The count of the individual and his activity may then be added to the Congregation’s Field Service Report (S-1) that is submitted to the branch office. If the minor is a baptised publisher, two elders should contact the Service Department for direction.
12. If at any time a publisher informs the elders that he wishes to revoke his consent for the congregation to use his personal data, two elders should call the Service Department immediately. The secretary should write the date of revocation on top of the Notice and Consent for Use of Personal Data form.

This gives them carte blanche to do as they will with your data: very scary indeed!

Here are the links to download them (in English and Spanish) via WeTransfer (only valid for 7 days):

Instructions: https://we.tl/V8lTt3BmrJ

Forms: https://we.tl/UbbtK9zXSQ

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Lloyd’s new book

by jwfacts in

i see there has already been discussion over lloyd’s new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.

this includes discussion around his personality, motives and financial gains.

i have written a foreword for this book, because it is an important topic that has not been covered in such a complete format before.

AverageJoe1

Dear Paul, I didn’t realise you were active on this site. Thanks so much for all your hard work and such a comprehensive, easy to understand website. It’s THE go-to place for me.

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Current/recent Elders: WT Legal phone hours?

by Open mind in

when i was serving as an elder about 10 years ago, the wt legal department's main number could not be reached on the weekends.

does anyone know if they have since made themselves available to elders 24/7?.

the most recent instructions i could find (october 1, 2012 letter to boe) still say the first thing elders are to do when becoming aware of an accusation of child sexual abuse is to "immediately" call watchtower legal.

AverageJoe1

Here I n Spain they have Monday to Friday working hours and if you call them after that you get an answering machine telling you to leave a message if it’s urgent. We once called them for a possible physical abuse case (not sexual) on a Saturday, left a message and they got back to us 4 days later. Lazy bas...kets!

UK is very much the same but at least they have someone manning the reception phone 24/7 and will put you through to someone who is on call for the legal department if you make enough noise.

So yes, to confirm the OP, “call immediately” actually means after you’ve consulted with the body and then call as soon as you can as long as that’s within office hours.