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  Get baptised or die!

  by AverageJoe1 in

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  so it would seem that the wts are going back to their old scare tactics again, going by this week’s watchtower study.. loyal baptized ones will be preserved when the present wicked world meets its end.

  (mark 13:10; rev.

  7:9, 10) this makes dedication and baptism very important.

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  AverageJoe1

  So it would seem that the WTS are going back to their old scare tactics again, going by this week’s Watchtower study.

  loyal baptized ones will be preserved when the present wicked world meets its end. (Mark 13:10; Rev. 7:9, 10) This makes dedication and baptism very important. A person who needlessly delays getting baptized endangers his prospects for everlasting life.
  

  This kind of reasoning by my family is what made me get baptised. I was scared out of my wits of getting killed by God at Armageddon. Read between the lines in that above quote. JWs DO believe that all non-witnesses will be destroyed at Armageddon. If you’re not a loyal and baptised Witness,, then you’re not going to make it! All through the article it stresses how you need to be a baptised JW (other Christian religions don’t count apparently) to be saved.

  On a side note, I read the following quote and thought it could be used by those who want to leave the organisation legitimately...

  Understandably, an individual could not make a valid dedication to God while engaging in any conduct that would exclude him from the Kingdom.
  

  We already know that the GB won’t accept a plea of your baptism not being valid but here in this article it refers to the step before your baptism and it clearly states that God won’t have accepted your dedication if you were doing bad stuff when you made it. Therefore your baptism can hardly be valid either. If God won’t accept it then who are the GB to say otherwise?

  Any thoughts?
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  How many people have been woken up by the A.R.C??

  by karter in

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  i know of 1 that watched the video and never went back.. i think for some it was a the sum of the total or the "last straw" if you like.. karter..

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  Me!!! It was a huge eye-opener.
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  Clarification needed re shunning policy

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i am in the process of writing to parliament about the practice of shunning by jehovah's witnesses.

  what i need to clarify if the practice is 'specifically' mentioned in any of the books used for bible study/ recruitment leading up to baptism?.

  i would be grateful if anyone could clarify this in case i get my facts wrong when writing my letter..

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  AverageJoe1

  And you thought the Pharisees were over-the-top with their laws!!!
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  "The last DAYS?"

  by eyeuse2badub in

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  i was asked last sunday, after a meeting that i attended with my wife, by a good friend if i believed that these were indeed the "last days".

  what prompted his question was the public talk given by a young man that i have known since he was 7 years old and is now an elder at 30.. the talk made mention several times that we are 'definitely' living in the "last days".

  i assume that the expression "last days" was prominent in the outline.. i hope that he way i answered my friend's question jump started his thinking.

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  AverageJoe1

  Excellent reasoning, @Sir82! I might use that one myself.
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  Wasted A #@$%&!** Day

  by FedUpJW in

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  well i got to waste another day.

  for the sake of still in family i attended the circuit assembly.

  they say a joy shared is doubled, and a burden shared is halved.

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  AverageJoe1

  I guess they never heard of a GREEN light! I'd hate to be behind these nitwits if they were driving.
  

  @FedupJW

  Unfortunately I HAVE! It's even worse when they are behind YOU though!
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  AverageJoe1-Here is Your Video!

  by Atlantis in

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  averagejoe1here is that kms-no.14 spanish video you requested.

  (how to achievenaturalness) david......forgot his last name, but anyway.https://we.tl/wclcdjbpceatlantis!.

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  By the way, do you know if anyone has a copy of the Spanish version of The Watchtower dated 1st January 1989. I have the (edited) bound volume copy. I'm after the unedited single magazine copy. The reason is for the quote that the preaching work would be finished by the end of 1999 (or by the end of the 20th century, which is the same thing).

  
  
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  AverageJoe1-Here is Your Video!

  by Atlantis in

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  averagejoe1here is that kms-no.14 spanish video you requested.

  (how to achievenaturalness) david......forgot his last name, but anyway.https://we.tl/wclcdjbpceatlantis!.

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  AverageJoe1

  Thanks Atlantis!!!!!! :)
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  Need Kingdom Ministry Lapel Badge-Spanish!

  by Atlantis in

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  does anyone have a copy of the kingdom ministry school lapel badge in spanish?

  if so, please send me a pm or post a download link below.

  atlantis!.

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  AverageJoe1

  Yes. The COBE in each cong usually fills them out and prints them.
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  R & B Soul on JW.org

  by silentbuddha in

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  i remember getting my ass beat .

  in 1987 / 1988 for listening to atlantic star.

  they had a song called always.. my mother sat me down anmd told me listening to music like that would just rile up my emotions and make me look for a girl to fornicate with.. like at the age of 10 i was going to take it to that level.. my mother later banned r and b from our home.... i find it all hilarious now, but a friend of mine actually sent me a link to the jw broadcast and said i had to watch this.. i told him there was no way, but he said just start at the 50:40 mark.. i do not believe that this is what the org is doing now???.

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  AverageJoe1

  Don't forget that back in the 80s some "progressive" JWs distributed recordings of Kingdom Songs with modern beats and that was disapproved of by the Watchtower.

  Hypocrites! Typical of the GB though: criticise what other religions do, then when they realise it's a good thing or money-spinner, they start doing it!
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  Sign JW Data Protection Form Or Else!

  by AverageJoe1 in

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  in spain (and the rest of europe), the "improved" data protection laws come into force on 25th may 2018. this is a good thing and sadly america is still lagging behind; not surprising with their current president!.

  watchtower legal department are hot on the case and have instructed elders to hand out the new "release" forms out to all the publishers in their groups, whilst making it clear to them that they won't have any privileges if they refuse to do so!.

  note these points in the instructions:.

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  AverageJoe1

  The surprise, Scratchme is them telling you it will be transmitted to other countries with crappy Data Protection laws... like America for example.

  My company’s Data Protection Policy clearly states that our customers Data WON’T be transferred to countries who don’t use the same standards of Data Protection.

  Its not obligatory for an organisation to pass your data to their offices in other countries. Plus you can clearly state to a company that you don’t want your data being used outside the EU. Not so with the WT.