Based on the table I produced last month, he's seen a drop of about 30 every month since his brief recovery after the "Things are bad" begging video, so there might still be another 10 or so to go!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It's 14:10 UK time (13:10 UTC) and the Patreon count is down to 512... but may change again today.
What time are you calling the deadline, Toblerone?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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That didn't stop him from posting the first one.
Exactly. So if he's "still deciding" about posting this one, then it must be really bad and he knows it!!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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"Still deciding" - in other words, it must be really bad.
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Rainbow 🌈 Law Makers will turn on Religion NOT the UN
by JohnTron7 init should be starting to become more clear to people what i've stated for years on this site.
the threat against religion that becomes pivotal will come from lgbtq politicians forcing through " hate crime" bills aimed at religions.
in the past i have had a " maybe" statement from only one commenter.
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I've wondered for some time if that might be one of the main flashpoints that could very plausibly trigger an attack on religion from the political system.
The other is over wealth - religions (including the JWs) have a lot of money and benefit from tax perks, and in some cases are very ostentatious about their wealth, with gold adorning their religious buildings, fine robes and fabrics, and (in the case of evangelical and modern churches especially) expensive cars, private jets and so on. Often, the very religions that have all this visible wealth also have many followers who are poor and struggling to make ends meet.
Both issues appear on the face of it to be reasonable justifications to attack religion, as they both appear humanitarian and "for the greater good", yet they could also be used to justify the use of bullying "cancel culture" tactics and extreme pressure and the passing of draconian laws if desired.
Also, either could be implemented on a more global scale in the not-too-distant future, so although it seems hard to imagine the UN coming together enough to be united in an attack, it's not implausible that there could be an international coordinated campaign of some kind in that direction.
Admittedly, none of this is likely in the immediate future but I reckon it will begin to happen in the next decade or so, accelerated by the decline of religious affiliation among younger generations which is already well underway, and more older people abandoning the beliefs of their youth - the predicted "drying up" of the waters of religion. As social attitudes change en masse, I think a concerted attack by policy makers on the power and influence of religious organisations could well happen, despite it seeming unlikely right now. That would especially be the case if the remaining religious audiences become more militant, like both the so-called Christian right in the USA and radical Islamists are.A polarised world between radical religionists, where the more moderate religionists fade and become indifferent or agnostic/atheist, would leave remaining religions looking like an extremist threat to the future of mankind.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Oh, how the Mighty have fallen. Too bad, Too Baaaaaad!
Haha! That reminds me of the scripture where it talks about the merchants and kings lamenting the fall of Babylon the Great - Revelation 18:15 "... saying: 'Too bad, too bad'..."
In this case, though, it's the Baby-Lloyd the Git...
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How do you feel about Brexit?
by SydBarrett inthe "independent scotland" thread got me thinking on this.
there are a lot of brits on this board.
what are your thoughts on brexit?
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So, forget about blaming the EU for your sad results.
Clearly you didn't read what I wrote.
In my final paragraph, I pointed out the UK Brexit team didn't handle the negotiations well enough, so I made it clear that was their failing. That doesn't invalidate the Leave vote itself though, nor does it mean the EU were blameless throughout.
Besides, there are are no "sad results" - ultimately, the UK has left the EU's political structure and will not be sucked into closer political or monetary union, which was primarily what the Leave vote was for. The future outside the EU is still being shaped, we haven't reached the "result". It took 40+ years of being drawn deeper into the "project" before the UK vote in 2016, so it will take some time to fully extricate the country and set a fresh course - something that Remoaners overlook in their rush to cry that the sky is falling in without EU membership.
In the meantime, diplomacy works both ways. Just as there was no "obligation" for the EU to be "kind", nor is there any longer any obligation for the UK to show sympathy or support to the EU in its difficulties. However, I would hope the UK would not be as petty in response as the kind of attitude you ascribe to the EU.
Interestingly, the frosty relations between the UK and EU are already thawing, partly because of the challenges brought about by the Russia/Ukraine conflict. That's caused much more difficulty for the EU due to the reliance of many of their members on Russian energy, and the internal political and diplomatic differences over how to respond. I suspect over time, as the EU and UK settle into a new, more separated relationship, things will begin to smooth out as other mutual priorities like international security and refugee migration become more urgent.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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That pic is not so bad (until you remember he's a married man) - but THIS one really does scream out embarrassment (and probably harassment):
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It's official: JW celeb Nicolas King publicly out
by neat blue dog inafter years of speculation, jw movie star & chorus member nicolas king, who ironically starred as the bad guy espousing homosexuality in a jw movie, has coupled up with his performing partner and also performed in a church for pride month.. .
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Good point, slim.
I was thinking something similar using deepfake technology, and since they're investing more in video editing and production I guess WT could start replacing the faces of video actors who are considered persona non grata with new, 'approved' ones - but AI generated ones are better as they remove any problem of the 'actor' later leaving the org in future. -
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by pokertopia inbecome imitators of me.​—1 cor.
11:1.. when paul said this, did he ask us to imitate his preach activities?
it is not a new verse that starts anew, but a verse that ends the previous chapter, so what paul says to imitate is shown in the previous chapter.
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I don't think the interpretation of daily text there is too bad - focusing on Paul's ministry as one example of something of his to imitate seems acceptable to me.
However, I do agree that quite often the org stretches the meaning and application of the daily verses it chooses, so as to try and make a link with their self-defined "faithful and discreet slave", to promote pioneering or Bethel service, or another of their own non-scriptural inventions.
One thing that interests me is that in the comments on that verse, they say the following (bold mine for emphasis):
Elders can imitate the apostle Paul not only by preaching from door to door but also by being ready and willing to give a witness on every occasion. (Eph. 6:14, 15) Like Paul, elders can use the time spent in the ministry to train others, including ministerial servants. (1 Pet. 5:1, 2) But elders should never be so busy caring for assignments that they have no time for the preaching work. (Matt. 28:19, 20) To remain balanced, they may on occasion need to say no to some assignments. After prayerful consideration, they may realize that they could not care for an assignment without neglecting the more important things, such as conducting family worship, having a full share in the preaching work, or training their children in that activity. They can be sure that Jehovah understands their desire to be balanced in all things.
It's interesting that they explicitly say elders may need to "on occasion" say no to assignments. They would never have said that in the past, I don't think, but sheer pressure on the brothers in recent years is making the org have to soften their official line despite there being a lack of new brothers coming forward, and I think that will have the effect of actually accelerating the shortage of men to take on assignments in future.
Although they don't give any detail on what "say no to some assignments" might mean - probably to try and cover themselves - that itself could backfire on them, as brothers will decide for themselves if they've had enough and what to turn down, and there's not a lot the CO or other elders can do about it apart from threaten to remove the elder's appointment, which would just make the situation worse.
Another case of the GB being stuck in a dilemma due to their past complacency and failings.
