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LMSA - excellent forensic examination of LE's behaviour. I reckon you have it bang on. Just one correction:
Which brings us to the identity of the "date". Cara, pronounced as "Sarah". And her friends too! So far we know that she likes to dress as a hotel maid and has a thing for the money of overweight foreigners.
Fixed it for you! I really doubt his newfound 'friend' was giving him her attention because of his charming personality and magnetic sex appeal.
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Okay, frighteningly he suits that man bun!
"suits" as in, now the whole ensemble looks similarly awful!
Yep, I can just imagine him topping off his horrible new look with something as disgusting as a man-bun. That pic looks all too plausible for the "new" midlife-crisis Lloyd, who thinks he's so cutting edge while being about 20 years out of date.
we from the old year books that some kgb undercover agents became elders in high up positions.. i wonder if this is going on today?
not just in russia but other congregations around the world?.
when you think how long it takes to become an elder and all the talks and maybe judicial committees they were involved with.. anyway i’m just throwing it out there if someone wanted to pay me i am a current elder who is pima about intelligence or chance involved with the origin of the universe.. .
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But some in Romania refused to rejoin with the GB and are still separated today.
They're apparently called Asociația „Credința Adevărată Martorii lui Iehova” ("True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses" so Google Translate says - my Romanian skills are not up to scratch) and have their own YT page under that name.
i was walking through a market today, and spotted lds cart witnessing.
so i thought, what the hell, i’ll give him a go.
i focused on the character of joe smith.
I did not know until reading this thread that Mormons do cart witnessing, too.
Me neither. Are they copying JWs? Do they have posters on the carts, and literature to hand out?Pictures would be good
Me three. I'm with Slim. Let's see some pics to compare.
I presume the Mormons nicked the idea from the JWs? It seems they like to exchange ideas these days, considering the JW GB2.0 have also nicked several from the LDS too. There are those who speculate that JWs and LDS even have the same or similar people behind their modern marketing strategies. Who knows?
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Why would he feel the need to redub the creation videos with his own narration?
That's just nuts.
Ok, so our friend has posted as a "sushi" (oh FFS) one of his five greatly anticipated (ahem) voiceovers to the JW nature clips which it apparently took him an additional 4 days to come up with, delaying the release of his Friday PM convention rebuttal.
I knew his comedy was poor, but really. This was just arse-achingly BAD. Some tedious 'joke' about "growing weed" in different places and then joining a cult? What the hell was the point? Just stick to your damned convention rebuttals if you must.
I'm not even going to bother looking at the others he apparently did in the main rebuttal video. I mean really. This is a new low for even him.
my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.
he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.
he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.
Well these days you have to be fully vaccinated to be on security at any theocratic event
There's no such rule here in the UK. The convention security teams are being put together now where I am and training is scheduled soon, and vaccination status has never been mentioned.
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God only knows why she would speak to lloyd about CSA related matters
Presumably she doesn't know who he really is and is unaware of his history. That's usually how he gets people to invite him - like with Andrew Gold.
my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.
he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.
he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.
FedUpJW - point taken about the WT study. It's true that it totally depends on the kind of study conductor you have in your congregation and whether you have enough people there who actually bother to put the answers in their own words rather than parrot what's on the page or waffle on for several minutes.
But ExBethelite was saying that nothing much on the meeting schedule requires real effort by elders anymore and I was basically agreeing. The only meeting assignments that need any kind of effort for an elder to do properly are the public talk and WT study - the rest can be skimmed.
Of course, it's by no means guaranteed the WT study will be done properly, and probably the majority of study conductors don't know how to do them well or can't be bothered any more.
my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.
he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.
he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.
the joke is how many elders does it take to change a light bulb. None they get a MS to do it and tell him it’s a privilege 🤣
Love it! 🤣
ExBethelite is so right. At the meetings, elders do little more than top and tail video clips these days. Even the treasures talk is largely directly from the outline in the meeting workbook - all the main points and scriptures are there.
Apart from the public talk (which of course doesn't require any audience interaction), the only item that still requires some proper preparation and attention is the WT study, and that's usually only taken by one or two of the elders (usually the CoBE or one of the other service committee).
(Proverbs 13:12) Expectation postponed makes the heart sick...
To be accurate, Jesus was not the one who's "postponed" the expectation.
He never said "It'll be 1875! Oh no, wait it'll be 1914! No, hold on, it's 1975... etc"
In fact, as you point out, he made it clear that we should not be trying to set a specific time for it. Funny how all these men from Russell right down to today's GB2.0 seemed to completely miss the point there!
my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.
he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.
he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.
I would add to Journeyman’s list the withdrawal of the Tuesday Group Book Study
Wow. Of course, how could I forget that one? That was a big blow to the bros and sisters.
For years, the society had said that the book study group was the main contact point for every witness in the congregation - they even speculated that when the "great tribulation" came, it would be through the book study that everyone would be kept in touch with one another and sustained.
Then the GB2.0 just swept it away (along with all their other changes), claiming some nonsense about saving brothers the travelling time and 'freeing' an evening for personal and family study, when everyone knew it was really 1) to avoid liability in case of anything bad happening in a private home, and perhaps even more 2) because they were paranoid that small groups were not teaching the party line 'correctly'.
It's true that the quality of teaching in the groups was very variable, depending on how capable the elder or servant taking them was and whether the group had any dominant or overbearing personalities in it, but as BluesBrother said, the groups were invaluable in JW life (where there are few enough opportunities to socialise) for giving all the chance to chat and have a drink and snack together afterwards.
The org still pays lip service to it in that every witness is still supposed to be part of a 'group' with a 'group overseer', but the arrangement is a shell of its former self and has little meaning beyond the Saturday morning field service group, while the 'book study' has become just another dumbed down video-playback show as part of the midweek meeting at the Hall. Officially, it's called the "congregation bible study" but practically noone calls it that because there's very little study of the bible involved (even less now than in the days when they had verse-by-verse considerations of bible books) - it's more a "reading of a book/brochure written by the WTBTS".
