certain forces appear to be trying to make sure donald trump never runs for president again.
some republicans are clearly abandoning trump and of course the democratic press has been saying trump is done!
is trump’s goose cooked?
A. He was following legal counsel in good faith and B. That his efforts were aspirational and not criminal.
Haha! I wonder if that will become a notorious euphemism in the future, like being "economical with the truth" and Boris Johnson's "it wasn't a party it was a work event"!
"Your honour, my client's intent when he turned up outside that bank with a shotgun, gloves and a balaclava, was purely aspirational, not criminal!"
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if he thought the EX-JW community are all fucked -up , wait till he has the scientology cult go after his little channel
What would be hilarious would be if Scientology went after Lloyd and exposed him.
Oh yes. He's been bitching and whining enough as it is about what he thinks is a "campaign" against him. He ain't seen nothing yet though. If he crosses the Scientologists, he'd better be prepared for a REAL focus on his private life, then he'll really know what it's like! By all accounts, those people don't mess about when they decide to go after someone.
The only thing that might save him from them is that he's small fry and with too little knowledge or influence for them to bother with. He'll probably hate that, but it's true. With such a dwindling audience and no real contacts or insider info he's no threat to them, though he likes to think he's some kind of great cult-buster!
i remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).
i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.
colour me gobsmacked!
It should be the other way around. 90% counselling and 10% procedure.
Well said. I hadn't given too much thought to it until reading your comment just then, but it occurs to me that in that book there is:
There are probably other serious omissions too that haven't immediately come to mind.
I notice also that at the beginning in the list of an elders' responsibilities, "Obey direction from the faithful and discreet slave and from overseers appointed to take the lead" ranks above "Listen carefully to the expressions of fellow elders" and "Deal in a kind and loving manner with each individual in the congregation". Very telling!
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I heared he had to return to his old congregation to answer questions about what happened there
I can't see why he would have to do that, unless his ego just couldn't resist him going back there to put on a show. But who knows? Maybe more information will come to light in time.
Incidentally, his Patreon numbers have crept back up to 488 now. Not sure if those are all 'real' subscribers or some are sock puppets though.
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"Forced" to attend a meeting sounds intriguing.
The only three things I can think of that could 'force' a person to return from abroad could be legal matters, a family issue or a health situation.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/watchdog-reports-on-investigation-into-watch-tower-bible-and-tract-society-of-britain.
press release.
watchdog reports on investigation into watch tower bible and tract society of britain.
So in other words, the Charity Commission has fudged their conclusions, and there will now be a further protracted investigation because the WTBTSB has restructured to change from individual KH charities to a single Kingdom Hall Trust, so the CC has basically got to start all over again with that body.
WT agrees to change their policy, then adopts a new policy which is found to be inadequate, so they change it, then that too is found to be inadequate, so they change it again. The whole thing has so far dragged on for over 15 years (2007-2023) - 13 if you count it from when the WT produced its first draft policy (2010).
Sounds like the WT has wrongfooted the CC and is playing a tactical game to spin things out for as long as it can.
if you haven't seen this exjw redditer's posts or youtube channel check this video.
watch the whole video... you will have a different prespective on what happened to am3's gb ousting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvch8p1mfek .
"Good men, beautiful men." I wonder if he still feels that way about Jackson and Splane (and the others) now that they've stabbed him in the back and booted him out!
Morris does seem to have been more honest and open about certain things, like internal weaknesses or failings. That's going off-message and would've concerned some of the more rigid, robotic members of the GB.
But yes, the problem with someone like that being in a position of authority for some time is that they get complacent, too self-confident and too haughty.
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Yes once it dries up he will flee back to the uk
he can’t get unemployment benefits where he is but he can in the uk
It's not that simple.
To be eligible for Jobseeker's Allowance (unemployment benefit) he would need to show he had paid sufficient National Insurance contributions in the last 3 years (which he won't have done, as he was outside the UK), otherwise he is only eligible for Universal Credit (a benefit paid to people who have no other income, or an income so low that they would otherwise fall below subsistence level).
For that, you get at most about £400 per month as a single person (and possibly additional Housing Benefit to help with rent). That is for everything - food, bills and any shortfall of HB (which doesn't necessarily cover all your rent). If he has savings above the equivalent of £16,000 at the time he claims he would not be eligible, and anything below that, then stepped deductions would be made from the benefit given to him (down to a maximum allowance of £6,000), so it would be even less.
Assuming he does not have Dijana or the kids with him, as a single male in his 40s with no disabilities, his options for benefits and social support are not great.
He would also have to show evidence he is actively seeking work. He's too lazy for that, and won't want to be put under obligation to the authorities.
So no, for that and the reasons I stated earlier, I seriously doubt he would move back to live permanently in the UK.
Here's the information from the UK government website about unemployment benefit and universal credit:
Jobseeker’s Allowance Eligibility
- worked as an employee
- paid Class 1 National Insurance contributions, usually in the last 2 to 3 years (National Insurance credits can also count)
You will not be eligible if you were self-employed and only paid Class 2 National Insurance contributions, unless you were working as a share fisherman or a volunteer development worker.
You’ll also need to:
- be 18 or over (there are some exceptions if you’re 16 or 17 - contact Jobcentre Plus for advice)
- be under the State Pension age
- not be in full-time education
- be available for work
- not be working at the moment, or be working less than 16 hours per week on average
- not have an illness or disability which stops you from working
- live in England, Scotland or Wales
Universal Credit EligibilityYou may be able to get Universal Credit if you’re on a low income or need help with your living costs. You could be:
- out of work
- working (including self-employed or part time)
- unable to work, for example because of a health condition
To claim you must:
- live in the UK
- be aged 18 or over (there are some exceptions if you’re 16 to 17)
- be under State Pension age
- have £16,000 or less in money, savings and investments
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But the cost of living in Croatia has to be low, so it's probably a better gig to beg on the internet for those in higher earning countries to send money, not realizing what it translates to.
Good point. If he were to settle back in the UK, he would have to do a real job to earn real money and pay his way.
Also, he keeps whining about how 'corrupt' he thinks the UK is because it has a royal family and because Brexit happened. Really, I think that's a cover for the fact he knows he can't set foot in the UK for too long without his past catching up with him. I'll bet there are elders from his former congregations who might still want to pursue him over his past (a lot of which is still murky and unresolved) and that might lead to other consequences he doesn't want.
So no, I really don't think he'll return permanently to the UK. If for some reason he had to leave Croatia, he'd probably rather go somewhere else - like Thailand where he can still live cheaply but also have his other "interests" catered for.
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Good summary. Yeah, I remembered he'd said it was a combined figure with YT and Patreon, but as you say, I'm sure he inflated what was necessary to give himself more.
I reckon he had already arrived at the point where he'd have to cut his pay in order to keep Tibor and he didn't want that. He could have sacked him, but it would have doubled his work load and he definitely didn't want that.
Not only that, but his ego likes the idea of being someone's "boss", having someone follow him and dependent on him for a wage (look at his constant comments about having a "team" to make himself sound more important). He also doesn't want to have to admit defeat in any way. Getting rid of Tibor would go against both those character traits, so he really doesn't want to have to do it. It would probably hurt him even more than losing the Bunker/Ramacro.
It's probably inevitable though. Either he will eventually be unable to pay Tibor (and keep his own level of disposable income), or they will have a disagreement and Lloyd will do what he always does with people who argue with him, or Tibor will simply outgrow the man-child and his ways and move on.
