Posts by Journeyman

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Anthony Morris the III has been FOUND

by Terry in

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friends

note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.

a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.

the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.

Journeyman

I suspect nobody knew anything about his personal life or why he was back in London. Does the average JW know anything about AMIII?

On a deeper level, no, but the big difference between the time of Chitty and now is that back then the GB didn't set out to make themselves media stars, front and centre of all the output to the R&F with their faces all over a TV channel and website. The image that AMIII has projected to date via his talks and appearances has not been a very endearing and sympathetic one and will have created a lot of bad feeling among many people.

It's unfortunate for AMIII that he's being the "guinea pig" for this social experiment, but this will be a first in JW org history: how the R&F, exJWs and others deal with a high profile, public eviction from the inner circle of the JW world back to 'ordinary' life.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Journeyman

O.M.G he just release a new video on the Tony Morris news

Ok, well he's getting better. A mere 5 days late to the story this time!

does not give anyone permission to take matters into their own hands in a manner that is abusive or CRIMINAL

To be fair, he's said that sort of thing in the past about "aggressive activism", and I agree with him on that aspect.

But his theorising about the second home being for someone to keep an eye on AMIII is hardly radical or newsworthy. Several have already speculated that that could be one reason. That's the advantage of posting late - you can jump on the coat tails of what others have already said!

Lloyd is calling people “criminal defendants” again.

I wonder if that's just an attempt to cover for the failure of his case to date and try to make "mud" stick, or if it means he's trying to keep the case alive? Will we see more submissions? If so, I don't envy the staff in the Croatian court system!

Lloyd is projecting a lot by calling people things that he is.

That was my immediate thought. "Classic narcissist who loses it whenever people don't join in his abuse and toxicity"? Pots and kettles, most definitely!

And then of course he has to play for the sympathy vote with the references to being "triggered" and "hurt" while on a "family holiday". So predictable!

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Anthony Morris the III has been FOUND

by Terry in

jw
friends

note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.

a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.

the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.

Journeyman

Perhaps you are attributing to them too much intelligence?

You could be right. I was assuming that they'd be more likely to be more paranoid than the usual person over security, given their obsession about persecution from the "world".

But maybe it's mainly just the BoEs, COs and the like who are outside in the "real" world that panic like that. From my personal observation, local elders tend to over-stress about every little detail, risk or setback, so they would definitely go into panic mode over something like this.

BTW, Journeyman, I enjoy your posts, so please don't take this note as a personal attack.

No problem, no offence taken!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Journeyman

Thank you Journeyman for giving me this idea...

Do you you know what Tony Morris brand new house is missing ? A balcony...

🤣 Nice work! Ah yes, Holiday Lloyd looks just right. Certain to 'pull' the 'ladies' of Patong with his beach-ready body! 🤣

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May 23 Watchtower

by Listener in

study article 22 is headed.

"keep traveling on the "way of holiness".

this article states that since 1919, having left babylon the great in that year, jws today are traveling on 'the way of holiness" (a figurative highway) as it takes them through the spiritual paradise and leads them through to future kingdom blessings.. they say that 'preparatory work' of that highway began centuries earlier.

Journeyman

This article was studied in congregations this weekend.

The OP is right. It's pretty bizarre they had an entire article with a theme about "The Way... of Holiness" and completely skipped over the link to first century Christians and, you know, that chap Jesus Christ!

Jesus said he himself is "The way... and the truth and the life", and at Acts 9 it shows that for the first Christians, their course of life was known as "The Way". They could've at least referenced these points in a couple of paragraphs to show "The Way of Holiness" being progressively revealed. But no, not a single mention of Jesus and the establishment of Christianity in the first century in this article.

Yet there were several paragraphs about three 19th century men who happened to have a few theories, and then a whole box about stuff the early Bible Students and then JWs ~~got wrong~~ "refined"!

Amazing.

The old GB's studies used to be odd enough at times, but it seems the GB2.0 have given up even trying to appear 'scholarly' or thorough in covering scriptural topics.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Journeyman

So he's off to Thailand again is he.

Not with two kids in tow - they'd get in the way of his "recreational activities" like... (check notes) scuba diving.

Unless he's taking Dijana along to take care of them while he's out... (check notes again) scuba diving.
And if she is going too, he's probably deducting the cost of her share of the holiday from her 'wages'...

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Tattoos

by NotFormer in

i was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.

if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?

would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.

Journeyman

What about a JW . ORG tattoo? I’d love to see how that would go down. Use it on the ministry, why not…

Yes! If you had it on a part of your body that it's acceptable to show publicly(!), you could sunbathe in the hot weather and show it off, and count your time! There's an idea for future pioneers... 🤣

"...conscience issue"- come on now, we all know what a 'conscious issue' is in dubland! Simply it goes like this- a 'real' christian wouldn't do x, y or z but you can of course. If you do, we will all treat you like shit for the rest of your life but go ahead. You will be a leper in our midst.

Personally, I'm no fan of tattoos so I've got no strong view about this (likewise with the org's beards obsession), but I agree about the double-standard of "conscience matters".

If something really is a "conscience matter", then bros and/or sisters shouldn't be judged adversely for it. Otherwise, be honest and say it's considered a mark of spiritual 'immaturity' or 'weakness' or whatever.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Journeyman

I feel as though Lloyd has been mis-representing himself for all of these years as an “activist” when in fact he is actually a YouTuber. Would people have been so willing to support him financially and with volunteer work if they had been told upfront that he was running a Youtube business rather than an activism movement?

It's an interesting point, and certainly more than just semantics.

Would he have been invited to various events around the world, been interviewed on the BBC or permitted to appear at IICSA if he had been billing himself simply as 'a YouTuber' rather than 'an activist'? Probably not.

How many other things - such as financial and material donations - might he not have benefitted from if not for touting himself as an 'activist'?

To be fair, while he was in touch with people like the Beeb and IICSA he could at least have some small claim to being an activist - lobbying to raise awareness with public organisations and push for change - but there's no doubt that since his self-inflicted fall from grace, with all shred or pretence of credibility gone and any meaningful contacts he had rightly abandoning him - he is certainly no longer 'an activist', but just 'a YouTuber'. (No offence intended to YouTubers who are happy to be known as such, and are not pretending to be ~~God's~~ Man's gift to the world!)

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Journeyman

Toblerone5 - Another for your Patreoff list.

Looks like the good news of the Patreoff is now being preached on all the internet! 🤣

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Journeyman

I've lost track of how many 'breaking' JW-related stories in the last few weeks that LE has not only failed to lead on, but hasn't even bothered to cover for days afterward. What is it now: five? Six? More?

He's spent most of the last 10-15 years putting himself out there on the web and social media as a self-proclaimed 'leading' exJW 'activist' but now he just seems to prefer trundling along in his own slow lane. Side-lined and irrelevant.