this will make most of you guys think that i believe you can find god in a mushroom, that is not exactly true but what if the jews did?
what if that is what the early christians thought?
what if christianity is inspired by drug users?
THP-thanks for your answers. in the context of most of the story being legend, i see how you could come to your conclusion. i thought you would have an answer for me, since you obviously put a lot of thought into your post.
anytime someone gives me something to think about, i owe them a debt of gratitude-thanks again for that-unanswered
iam sure you wonder what is this.
about...well take a quick look.
at this link!.
machislopp-thanks for posting this. it floors me. so, the reinstatement was the witness version of last rites? to think that this man actually thought getting reinstated would assure his salvation. i would hope that the elders involved told him it was his heart condition that mattered more than paperwork, but that might be to much to hope for.
there is a phenomenon in dub dom that i have always hated.
the circuit/district convention.. people will spend hard earned money, use up any vacation they may have to travel to a city they don't really have any particular reason to see to sit for entire days and listen to the same b.s.
they could sit and listen to at the meetings in their home kingdom hall.
moridin-hope you didn't think i was setting myself aside as a "good kid". for me to say that might be blasphemy. :)
i was asked the other day whether i believed in heaven and/or hell, and i almost started spouting jw doctrine before i stopped myself and really pondered the question.. it's a different world when you have to start thinking for yourself instead of letting the organization think for you.
when i left the jw's, i pretty much left religion in general, i dont consider myself agnostic, but i question everything religious i was ever taught.
from "does god exist" to "evolution", "faith", "death", everything i "knew" is under suspicion now.. so back to the topic, the witnesses teach: there is heaven, but only 144,000 get to go, there is no hell, only non-existance upon our death.
conflicted-i can identify, i too have come to a point where i'm questioning/researching everything, not just a few points. you can't tip one domino over without knocking over the rest of them. i really liked the quote, it made me think of something i realized a long time ago, the fact that most of the main "rules" of living should come naturally-don't cheat on your mate, treat others as you would have them treat you, etc. sure none of us are perfect, but i really don't think jehovah wants to have to tell us these things. they are things we do to get along in life and it doesn't have to be a "rule" for us to know it is right. i'm just sad my conditioning by the WT made me believe otherwise. didn't mean to ramble, good post-unanswered.
good grief!.
does anyone see the comedy in the brother under the note discussion?.
sure, jws may never receive instructions to search the trash, but every cong.
right on the money, dogpatch. not like i need to tell you, but in the org. there are the rules and then there are the rules. and the "geeks" love to try to enforce those unsaid rules. when i was in the org. i had longer hair and was constantly being "counseled" about. later i decided to get rid of it, and shaved it down to about a half inch, at which point i was told my hair was to short. i think this kind of thing usually happens because people that deny themselves things get jealous of those that don't. oh well, i'm out now, and suprisingly i've been able to properly groom myself without their help.
there is a phenomenon in dub dom that i have always hated.
the circuit/district convention.. people will spend hard earned money, use up any vacation they may have to travel to a city they don't really have any particular reason to see to sit for entire days and listen to the same b.s.
they could sit and listen to at the meetings in their home kingdom hall.
nik-what a great post, i wish it brought back great memories. i too used to try to get any assignment that would keep me out of my seat. my favorite part was watching the witness kids i knew getting interviewed. everyone thought those kids were sooo wonderful, meanwhile, i was laughing knowing that these kids were not quite the "exemplerary" youths everyone thought them to be.
do you find normal that:.
it is interesting to point out that nearly a year after ceasing its policy of .
disfellowshipping jehovahs witnesses who accept blood or the blood.
thanks ozzie-that was exactly what i wanted. now i can dig that mag out of the pile my mother-in-law sends me.
do you find normal that:.
it is interesting to point out that nearly a year after ceasing its policy of .
disfellowshipping jehovahs witnesses who accept blood or the blood.
i'm feeling a lot more ignorant than i did 5 minutes ago. i thought i knew about most of the recent changes at the WT, but i didn't hear about this one. thanks for turning the light on on this one.
does anyone know where i might be able to read a little more about this? thanks-unanswered
this will make most of you guys think that i believe you can find god in a mushroom, that is not exactly true but what if the jews did?
what if that is what the early christians thought?
what if christianity is inspired by drug users?
THP- i actually found your post very interesting. you haven't made me a believer, but i do have a couple of questions about your theory.
1. if manna was a bunch of mushrooms, specifically magic mushrooms, how did they sustain the isrealites nutritionally? according to the bible, even when there was other food, it was the manna that was their staple.
2. how could the isrealites eat the mushrooms daily for any long period of time? the ritual use of these mushrooms has usually been documented as just that, ritual, not daily. not to mention the fact that when someone takes mushrooms the day after previously taking them, they must eat twice the amount to get the same effect. compile this day after day, and the mushrooms would cease to have the same effect that they did in the first place. also, have you ever heard of anyone who was able to sustain that amount of daily ingestion for very long at all? a couple of, maybe even several days, maybe, but weeks, months, years? i don't know...
THP- i'm not attacking your post, just really curious how you would answer these questions. thanks-unanswered
ok maybe this is a dumb question, but i really am curious.
why does it seem that fornication is the only "real" sin in the jw religion?
i mean people can slander, be gluttonous, get drunk and have unethical business practices, but god forbid you should have a little sex.
first, i have to agree with mommy on this one.
"So you see it is not who you know but how high up they are in org"
when i was 19 and 20 i was friends with a jw girl my age. regularly i would go to her house and hang out with her family and their friends. on many such occasions we had a few beers given to us by the parents. they knew i was not of legal age, and even when elders were there it was never a problem. however, when it came out that i drank with other witness friends, i was accused of having a drinking problem.
now i realize that one situation was under adult supervision and one was not, but, how come i only had a drinking problem when i was away from that supervision? i'm not defending my drinking as a minor-i'm sure i won't want my kids doing that, i just think that it's the double standards that really get a lot of us fired up, not always the principles.
frenchy-once again i've enjoyed your balanced opinion. you always seem to remember and allow for our humanity when discussing these kinds of topics.
