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riz is the one who first showed me this site, and my only ex-jw friend in our community, so i have a large debt of gratitude for that. thanks-riz lotsa love. nate

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Teaching Tolerance

by LDH in

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if we could shrink the earth's population to a village of precisely 100 people, with all the existing human ratios remaining the same, it would look something like the following:.

57 asians.

21 europeans.

Information on Cards

by myMichelle in

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good morning people,.

could someone here tell me more about the cards that are kept at the kh on the publishers there?.

do they keep one for unbaptized people, and at what stage (interested one, publisher, etc.

from my knowledge, moridon is right. the "card" is called a "publisher card" and is started when you become a publisher. i was curious about the card when i was an active member and was never allowed to see it. to my knowledge it does contain history of any judicial meetings the publisher has had and is sort of like a dossier. my father(an elder) once told me that any KH i moved to would know everything that the elders ever knew about me, based on the info. in the card. kind of creepy, huh?

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Introducing myself...& need advice...

by ShaunaC in

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my name is shauna and this is my first post here.

in short, i am 26 years old and have been df'd for a little over 2 years.

i come from a strong and long jw heritage (6 generations).

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shauna-sounds like you've already done a lot of the setup so that your parents won't be totally shocked by a new conversation, that should help a lot. more importantly, you've prepared yourself for any outcome. you asked how i brought up the conversation-part of what made it happen is the fact that my mother and i have always been very close. this is what makes this whole situation hard for her. so my mother and i are used to talking about things in a reasonable way, even though we don't see each other as much any more. our conversation did sort of come up naturally and this helped because she felt more comfortable interjecting her own views. i didn't plan a time to talk about it, i just waited for the right time to come up. my father is very hardcore and him and i have never really gotten along that well, so it was easier to talk to my mother and let her tell my father because he listens to her, and usually just gets mad when i bring things up. in my family it was the best way to make my point without it being ignored.

so that's the answer to your question, although, as you can see, it's not a great one.

thanks for the congrats-my wife posts once in a while under the name rileygurl in case you ever see her on the board.

p.s.-frenchy's view on this might be of some help,as i said i think keeping your love for your parents in the conversation can sometimes grease the gears, and his posts always show a lot of love and human compassion. hopefully he will respond. sorry to put you under the gun, frenchy:)

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Introducing myself...& need advice...

by ShaunaC in

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my name is shauna and this is my first post here.

in short, i am 26 years old and have been df'd for a little over 2 years.

i come from a strong and long jw heritage (6 generations).

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hi, shauna-welcome to the board. your post brought up a lot of emotions for me because of the similarities in our situations. i'm 27, my dad's an elder, i left during a failed marriage, one of my sisters shuns me, things with my parents are now strained, etc.

as far as your question, i did have that conversation with my parents fairly recently. it took time to get to that point because i didn't want to make things worse, but finally i decided that i had to. one good thing it did accomplish was making my parents realize that i wasn't going to be a witness because of my beliefs, not because i just wanted an excuse to do whatever i wanted to do. they now respect me for that even though they think i'm wrong.

it is tricky to defend your stand without picking on the jw beliefs, and since your parents sound like staunch jws that will probably upset them. i tried to keep my love for them as parents in the forefront so that they would know i wasn't trying to hurt them. it worked so-so. they also had to deal with me living with my girlfriend who i am now married to, so there was no way to make it easy.

i think if you are going to have the big discussion with them, you have to be ready for the fact that it may very well go badly. you have to decide how important it is to you. for me, i decided that i would rather have no relationship with my parents than one based on faking it for them(which i did for a long time).

i'm not sure if this will help or not, but since our situations seem similar, i had to comment. i hope everything works out for you. not everything has worked out exactly like i wanted for me, but this board and all the support here from people with stories i can identify with has helped me a lot.good luck-nate

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WT official video response online-molestation

by Dogpatch in

http://www.randytv.com/.

get with it and say what u think about j.r. brown!.

downtown mr. brown kicks butt!

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dog-finally got to check it out. brown sounds like any p.r. man for a large corporation. that's to bad. his flat denials really torqued me off. is it ignorance of what's going on in their org., i doubt it, sounds more like a big fat cover up. if their motives were purely godly, would they not seriously investigate these allegations, just to make sure they were false? they just sound more and more like any other organized religion all the time. so sad, now nothing will be done to help those that bowen spoke of.

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WT official video response online-molestation

by Dogpatch in

http://www.randytv.com/.

get with it and say what u think about j.r. brown!.

downtown mr. brown kicks butt!

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dogpatch-i've found your posts to be very thought provoking and factual. i have to go to work right now, but i'll check this out later and respond. thanks for keeping an eye on the WT, here and at your site-nate

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Always Late?

by Norm in

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always late .

one of the watchtower society favorite themes is how incredibly late it is.

it is in fact always later than you think.

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the WT has always told us that it's "later than we think", but since the end still hasn't come and almost every non-questioning jw was taught to believe that it should have come already, it seems obvious that it is "earlier than we think".

great post, norm