that got you to read this!
what country are you from?.
i find it encouraging to see where different posters are from in the world, especially for me, if you are from the uk or europe.
i'm from oregon, usa, but this has already come out on another thread. just wanted to chime in.:)
orange blossom-people stay in the borg for many reasons, it doesn't make you a coward at all. IMO, it can sometimes be harder to stay in the borg, depending on your situation.
nate
as most of you know i am new to the world of the internet.
therefore i am new to the discussion board forum.
when i first entered simon's place, i did not fear to speak my mind.
wendy-i know that your post probably wasn't directed to me, but i just wanted to say that i can't recall finding any of your posts offensive.:) i think your voice on this forum is very valuable, you are one of the people whose opinion i am always interested in. cheers-nate
as a matter of fact i'm interested riz & unaswered.
we're going to be up there about that time, hmmm i'll just email ya k.. venice
carmel-my wife and i(rileygurl) live about an hour and a half south of portland, and rileygurl works in eugene, which is about another 45 minute south of us! i'm sure you are probably busy on your trip, but it would be great to get a cup of coffee with you while you are here. i'm sure riz would come as well.:)
i'm so happy to see all these responses, it would be great if we can all work something out. looking forward to some apostate fun.-nate
"it is not to be presumed that the prince of darkness will suffer the binding influences of the new prince, which are now at work to fetter his power without a struggle.
his rage will spend its force in distressing mankind in various ways, for he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
" 1884wtwr 03 01 07. well, that is as it may be, but we can now say without a doubt that this "short time" which the watchtower taught back in 1884 was nearly over is still 117 years later - taught by the watchtower to be in progress... "all know something of the failure of brother miller's expectations.
Focus-
Just wanted to let you know that your intellect and personality are totally appreciated. If you weren't here, IMO you would be sorely missed, so I'm glad you are. I always look forward to your posts; this one was one of my favorites. You are tops in my book.
nate
today, april 20th, is the fourth anniversary of a very special day in my life.. the anniversary of my rebirth.. this rebirth was not a religious experience, but it was something totally pure, amazing and healing.. it had nothing at all to do with the society, or rather, of freeing myself from it.
it was however, a giant first step in that direction.. today is the fourth anniversary of the day i got letter that changed everything.
the words on the pages were alive, and magical: they released me from my old life and for the first time.
cheers, esmeralda!!!!
i'm happy for your you and your special day. here's to you and your partner's future happiness!!!-nate
can someone please tell me exactly what constitutes a df'ing offence?.
i recently read a post where someone said that they were df'd for committing "adultery in the heart", someone else for gambling, someone else for smoking etc etc.
it's all very puzzling, back in the 60's the wtbts had a down on "petting and necking" but it wasn't df'able.
interesting question, englishman!
i definitely agree with wasasister, it just depends on the area you are in. what might be frowned upon in one hall, might be a d/f'ing offense in another.
LOL, dark clouds, i would have liked that pub after service ritual as well! might have been worth knocking on doors,...no, i guess not.-nate
"it is not to be presumed that the prince of darkness will suffer the binding influences of the new prince, which are now at work to fetter his power without a struggle.
his rage will spend its force in distressing mankind in various ways, for he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
" 1884wtwr 03 01 07. well, that is as it may be, but we can now say without a doubt that this "short time" which the watchtower taught back in 1884 was nearly over is still 117 years later - taught by the watchtower to be in progress... "all know something of the failure of brother miller's expectations.
focus-thanks for this interesting thread. i had no idea how much this confident phrase had been used. especially in light of so many failed prophesies. oh yeah, i forgot the WT GB doesn't prophesy. now how could i forget that?-nate
todays newspaper.
st-jerome, quebec, canada.
a quebec judge has ruled in favour of jehovah's witnesses in the challenge of a blainville bylaw requiring a permit for door to door visits of a religious nature.. justice jean crepeau said that to lump witnesses in with sales people is degrading.
they should at least need a permit if they are going to knock on doors before noon on the weekends.:)
sad person that i am, i posted this yesterday, but the post seems to have self destructed....... anyway, if anyone posted to the other thread wants to re-post to this one it would be much appreciated.
alright, this is one of those what was your favourite questions:.
when you were a witness (or even if youre still reluctantly attached like me), did you have a favourite kingdom melody (why couldnt they just be called hymns by the way)?.
riz-i'm getting my tongue ready right now. i'm not sure how the "dust" will taste, but, however bad it is, i think it's probably a lot better eating the "spiritual food" we were given while in the WT. and how come it always smelled like cabbage? i'm sure you know where i'm going with that.:)-nate
told by the elders yesterday that since i'm a official at a sports match on saturdays and i won't quit doing it (they mention it occasionally to me at meetings), that they won't be allowing me to get baptised the next assembly coming up.
it might matter if i was working 5 days a week but at the moment i'm only working 2 days......(i've already racked up 50 hours this month).
i remember a talk a while back with the theme "what prevents you from getting baptised?
RED CARD, RED CARD, RED CARD!!! the elders ought to be kicked off the "team" for that move, IMO. seriously though, sorry they are messing with you.-nate
