Best of luck! Knock them dead!
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as some of you know, i had no job last year, then finally got something in an industry that i know nothing about.
the environment and people haven't been the best, but i had to stick it out and hope that things would improve.
i have kept my eye and ears open for opportunities more in my field of expertise - which is print advertising.. i sent through my cv for a job i saw advertised in the newspaper for an advertising sales rep - applied and now i have an interview to go too tomorrow.. i've learnt not to get my hopes up - i am glad for the interview and i hope it goes well..
Best of luck! Knock them dead!
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well i'm sorry i've been absent, it's been a rough few weeks and still having to work....i ended up having a nice happy surprise by having the day off, so i'm finally going to get caught up on things.. .
april 1st was my 6 months of not reporting service time and i am officially inactive now.
i think my hubby and i are going to celebrate!
Well I got the tattoo.
Here is the link for the picture, http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/250640/1/My-act-of-REBELLION
Gojira
well a picture says a thousand words!
i had a tattoo done today.. it was actually interesting because as i was chit chatting with the tattoo artist, she asked me if this tattoo symbolized anything....well actually it does i told her.. me: i was a jw and they are strongly against tattoos or anything that is really "normal" for people.. tattoo artist: i know all about jw, my ex-girlfriend's family was all jw, and i remember one time going over to her parents house and her grandma sat us both down and made us read some scriptures from her bible as to why we were going to hell.. me: actually you will due at armageddon, that is the jw thing.. tatt artist: oh right that is what her grandma said.
i forgot about that, you're right.. so then the rest of the conversation was just me telling her it's a cult and i told her never listen to any jw who comes knocking.. something else interesting that happened just before i came on here.
Thank you everyone, I'm hooked now, I'm thinking of having it go over my shoulder and down my arm now.
OnTheWayOut: That would be an awesome tattoo! Let's hope your wife wakes up soon!
*lost*: Now that I'm out, when I hear stories like this, it makes me so sad to think I was just like the JW's. I'm just glad I'm out!!!! Are you going to get a tattoo? or do you already have one?
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well a picture says a thousand words!
i had a tattoo done today.. it was actually interesting because as i was chit chatting with the tattoo artist, she asked me if this tattoo symbolized anything....well actually it does i told her.. me: i was a jw and they are strongly against tattoos or anything that is really "normal" for people.. tattoo artist: i know all about jw, my ex-girlfriend's family was all jw, and i remember one time going over to her parents house and her grandma sat us both down and made us read some scriptures from her bible as to why we were going to hell.. me: actually you will due at armageddon, that is the jw thing.. tatt artist: oh right that is what her grandma said.
i forgot about that, you're right.. so then the rest of the conversation was just me telling her it's a cult and i told her never listen to any jw who comes knocking.. something else interesting that happened just before i came on here.
Well a picture says a thousand words! I had a tattoo done today.
It was actually interesting because as I was chit chatting with the tattoo artist, she asked me if this tattoo symbolized anything....well actually it does I told her.
me: I was a JW and they are strongly against tattoos or anything that is really "normal" for people.
Tattoo artist: I know all about JW, my ex-girlfriend's family was all JW, and I remember one time going over to her parents house and her grandma sat us both down and made us read some scriptures from her bible as to why we were going to hell.
Me: Actually you will due at Armageddon, that is the JW thing.
Tatt artist: Oh right that is what her grandma said. I forgot about that, you're right.
So then the rest of the conversation was just me telling her it's a cult and I told her never listen to any JW who comes knocking.
Something else interesting that happened just before I came on here. I was doing dishes and I just started crying, it took me a few minutes to figure out why. I've wanted a tattoo since I was 16, and my mom told me even as a little kid I would also draw on myself and have temp kids tattoos. The reason I was crying was because I finally did something I wanted, and didn't have anyone telling me I was going to die at Armageddon because I had a mark on my body and the other reason is when I look at this beautiful tattoo on my shoulder it's a constant reminder that I am a slave no more and I'm FREE!
I thought my dad was going to have a heart attack because he has always been against tattoo's and even after he learned TTATT back in December I told him I was going to get a tattoo, he laid the guilt trip on me, but this morning I almost had a heart attack, he said if he can decide on what to get, he wants a tattoo. I guess we all have really changed just in the last 4 months.
Peace and good night/morning
Gojira
maybe born-ins are, because we converts made the choice whereas the born-ins did not.
or are the converts more likely to because of thought patterns developed outside the cult?
i'd like to know what you think..
I think part of the reason for me waking up was
1) my parents started waking up before me and so we all went on the journey together,
2) I had my husband who was waking up along side and he had major doubts and had gone through what Tiki described...well I went through that too with the low self-esteem too, but that is a different topic.
3) I have a great friend who had escaped from WT years before me because it never "clicked" with her , but she was there as a support for me and I also had other non-JW friends who have been here for me through all of this.
I guess part of it to is if you have a life outside of WT that you can turn too. I never really had any close friends while in so I found friends outside of WT and guess what? They were happy when I left and didn't shun me, they embraced me!
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i'm almost a year out of high school and of course, i'm not in college.
i'm a pioneer (sigh) with little to no work experience and having a really hard time finding any work.
i want to go back to college, but it's going to be difficult now that i'm a pioneer, and my parents cannot really afford the loans that will incur should i pursue going to college.
Also depending on your families income apply for financial aid, that is if you live in the USA...I went to a community college and got my AAS degree and didn't have to pay one penny myself because my Financial aid was enough.
Also right now my husband is going through to be starting his third semester at the community college and so far we haven't had to pay anything out of pocket. Financial aid is paying for everything.
Financial aid is NOT a loan you have to pay back, this is money from the government that they send to your school to pay for books and tuition, and whatever is left that you didn't use for tuition and books, you get a check.
Here is the link http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/ to the USA financial aid, it really doesn't take that long to fill out the application. I'm sure even if you are in a different country there has to been some kind of funding.
I never had to get college loans and so far my husband won't have to get college loans either.
I wish you the best of luck. You actually sound like me a few years back. I had to come off the reg pioneer list to go to college, thankfully my parents were supportive of me and encouraged me to go to school, but I got a lot of trouble from the congregation because I was going to school. So prepare yourself for opposition from people. Be determined to go to school!!!!!!!! I look back now after fading myself at almost 30 years old and wish I had never wasted my time reg pioneering. Get educated so you can support yourself!
PM me if you have any questions about USA school, not sure where you live, but I might be able to help with figuring out school if you live in the States
And welcome!!!!!
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sorry i have been m.i.a lately...life got very busy for me.. this morning i woke up at 5:30 and couldn't get back to sleep because i was having many thoughts running through my head.
my grandma shunning me, what it was like for me as a jw and i remembered something that i thought i would share.
guess i'm needing some group therapy today :).
Thanks :)
sorry i have been m.i.a lately...life got very busy for me.. this morning i woke up at 5:30 and couldn't get back to sleep because i was having many thoughts running through my head.
my grandma shunning me, what it was like for me as a jw and i remembered something that i thought i would share.
guess i'm needing some group therapy today :).
Hi everyone,
Sorry I have been M.I.A lately...life got very busy for me.
This morning I woke up at 5:30 and couldn't get back to sleep because I was having many thoughts running through my head. My grandma shunning me, what it was like for me as a JW and I remembered something that I thought I would share. Guess I'm needing some group therapy today :)
What I remembered is starting in my middle teens years I would have these "attacks" I guess, I'm not really sure how to describe them but it would almost feel like a panic attack that God was going to destroy me because I was a JW (weird huh?) They didn't happen all that often and now I know most of the time they happened after a meeting where it was the strong talks on the end of the world.
Anyways, I just ignored it most of the times. As I got older and I started college and actually getting an education, and I had to miss meetings sometimes for classes. These "attacks" would happen more often and it was always the same thought "the JWs are wrong. No what if they are wrong? No, no the Jws are right, this is Satan trying to undermine my faith" and then I would convince myself that JW were right. This happened at least once a month, sometimes more.
Now being out and reflecting back...I think my logical part of my brain was trying to tell me to run that it's a cult..the JW are not right, but then the other emotional part of my brain that was the born in JW who knew nothing else convinced me the JW were right.
The funny thing now is since being out those "attacks" have not happened at all. And you would think since leaving the JWs I would have more panic attacks, but it just hasn't happened, not once!
I don't know why but I'm just feeling very emotional today so please go easy on me with the comments :)
G
maybe born-ins are, because we converts made the choice whereas the born-ins did not.
or are the converts more likely to because of thought patterns developed outside the cult?
i'd like to know what you think..
I was a born-in and even home schooled, not because my parents didn't want me to experience "worldly things" but because the state we lived in had the worst schools in the USA and I had some "learning issues" when I was younger...with that said I'm an only child. My mom was very afraid of me getting molested (funny how she was worried about that even before it become public), so even going over to a friends (jw friends) house to play was very limited and my mom made sure she was always there or my friends would come over to our house for sleep overs and to play. I was very sheltered growing up.
All through my teens years I was "somewhat" happy, I made friends and they left WT, I'd make more friends and they would leave...or I'd make friends and they would just not be there for me at all whenever I needed a friend. It was very lonely.
I think I mentally starting to check out of WT when I went to college in my early 20's, that was really my first time interacting with non-jw everyday and I had friends, but these friends seemed more real to me. I'm still in contact with one of my classmates and it's going on near 10 years since leaving school. Plus also school has a great way about teaching people to be critical thinkers. Anyways after I graduated I soon moved to a different state.
I'm not sure how to answer your question because i really do think it depends...because of how my family and I have been treated over the years by JWs and elders I really do think I was somewhat out mentally and it really didn't take that much convincing from my parents to wake me up to TTATT.
The hardest thing with leaving isn't the fact I lost all of my JW family and friends (I do still have my husband and parents), the hardest thing for me is all my life I have believed the JW are right about God and Christ, they are the only way to salvation (Gosh I feel like throwing up just typing that), and then at the drop of a hat your whole world gets turned upside down and EVERYTHING you have believed in whole heartedly your entire life is nothing but a lie. I didn't know what to believe anymore and for a time I was finding it very difficult to believe in God. I had nothing outside of "the truth"
It's been a helluva ride that's for sure.
So to answer your question with my thoughts, I think anyone can leave if they want to or if they can break that cult mind control, but both sides have something to help them leave. For a convert you do have a previous life to can go back to. As for a born in, we've been in so long that we have seen all the changes to doctrine, we see all the hypocrisy and especially since my dad was an MS for many years and we were in the "heart" of the cult...my family has seen and been through a lot. So over the years we all know there were problems but we all chalked it up to imperfect men running things, and that God will take care of it....now of course we know differently. I think each side perspective can have the trigger to help make them wake up and leave.
I was just thinking Julia, this would be an awesome topic for a book, have you ever considered writing?
Peace XoXo
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i'm new here, so i thought i'd start with an introduction and summary of my life, for the most part.
i have a tendancy to ramble ridiculously, so bear with me :) and this will be all over the place as thoughts take over the keyboard.. i was born a 5th generation jw.
i never really "felt" it, but was book smart about it.
Welcome Stubborn. Your post made me cry.
I don't care who the hell knows that we are friends in real life! I love you sis!
I hope you will finally be able to heal being able to tell your story to others and knowing that your family are the crazy ones who should be in jail. And no family member should shun you because you were a Mormon at one time. Blame the JW's and your parents for screwing you up in the first place! Also you weren't the only one who has suffered at the hands of the JWs and post your thoughts on here whenever you want! I have found a lot of comfort in the fact that I am part of a group of people from various belief systems and various reasons why they left, but these people on here can truly understand the damage and hurt you have experienced.
P.S You will run out of posts quick so try to consolidate them :) I learned the hard way
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