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ASAP!!!! Need HELP!!!!

by Gojira_101 in

i'm meeting with a friend in about an hour and she said she will let me show her things about wt.

i can't say the whole story right now because of time...but i have a copy of a wt saying how "jehovah will not let false prophecy's come true..." from the may 1st 97 wt.. i don't have a wt library so i can't look up the info.

i know there are wt articles saying the end was coming in 1975 and also certain times from like the 20's.

Gojira_101

Thank you but I'm trying to avoid JWfacts...I want the actual WT articles.

G

47

How long has this been going on!?

by Julia Orwell in

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ok, i've suddenly got heaps of time for stuff, i can cuddle with my husband on weekend mornings, and i don't have to spend money on meeting clothes!

i've got all these great clothes i hardly wear!

we can make pancakes on saturday mornings!

Gojira_101

Yay! I'm so happy for you! It's a great feeling huh? I love the fact no more Saturday morning service, no more Sunday meetings and no more falling asleep at Thursday night meetings!

Gojira

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ASAP!!!! Need HELP!!!!

by Gojira_101 in

i'm meeting with a friend in about an hour and she said she will let me show her things about wt.

i can't say the whole story right now because of time...but i have a copy of a wt saying how "jehovah will not let false prophecy's come true..." from the may 1st 97 wt.. i don't have a wt library so i can't look up the info.

i know there are wt articles saying the end was coming in 1975 and also certain times from like the 20's.

Gojira_101

I'm meeting with a friend in about an hour and she said she will let me show her things about WT. I can't say the whole story right now because of time...But I have a copy of a WT saying how "Jehovah will not let false prophecy's come true..." from the May 1st 97 WT.

I don't have a WT library so I can't look up the info. I know there are WT articles saying the end was coming in 1975 and also certain times from like the 20's. I want to show her how WT has been prophecing and they aren't coming true.

Please if you can post the articles so I can print them to take with me.

Thanks!

Gojira

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After the cult how many reject faith in anything?

by Seraphim23 in

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Gojira_101

I don't believe in religion anymore, any religion I look at it's all the same as the JW's. It's a cult and trying to come between you and God.

Do I still believe in God? I have to or else I'd go kill myself to end it all. I don't knock other people for their beliefs I just ask no one tell me I'm stupid for still believing in a God. Which has happened every single time I have said I still believe in God on this forum. There are still times that I question things, but I always go back to believing and having hope. Call me stupid if you will, but I will never call anyone on here stupid because of your beliefs. I still have respect for people.

If you would like to question me more, please feel free to send me a PM. I don't comment to much on here anymore because of the above mentioned reason.

Gojira

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MIL letter to my wife

by AggieNostic in

background: my wife and i are inactive, we stopped attending in 2005. raised as jws, were pioneers, i was elder etc... .

our kids are in college, also inactive but are baptised.

my wife went back to college, getting her degree this month at age 48!

Gojira_101

I'm truly sorry for what your family is going through. This is the type of guilt trips that the mind-controlled rank and file have.

They ALL think that loyalty to the organization equals loyalty to God. The sad thing is they are actually being loyal to Satan.

All of my family started shunning my parents and I because we were saying we were going to become inactive...we also then had questioned where Jesus was in a picture in a WT that showed the structure of God's organization...Jesus wasn't there. So we all got called apostates and have been shunned.

You can try to reply to your MIL, but the chances of you getting through the mind-control are very small.

There is a life after Watchtower, it's been hard losing my family (it's a small family anyways), but it does get easier every day, because it's really is them. The WT has twisted their minds.

I will be praying for you and your family. Another thing to keep in mind too is they will always use this guilt on you do what they want, or to "help" you go back to Jehovah. So no matter what they use mind-control to get you to stay in line with the general cult mentality of the JW's.

Peace to you and your family.

Gojira

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How to fade?

by naazira in

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i am suppose to become an unbaptized publisher in a few days.

however ive changed my mind.

i finished my bible study and progressing in the org.

Gojira_101

Welcome naazira!!!!

I'm so happy you were able to realize there is something wrong with the JW's BEFORE you are committed to them. I lost the first 30 years of my life to the JW's and now I have nothing to show for it except a lot of emotional scars, and in the process of leaving lost most of my JW family.

LEAVE WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!!!!!!!!!!

Since you are not even an unbaptized publisher yet there is nothing anyone can do but harass you, and if you live in the USA we have laws here and it does go against a little tiny document called the Constitution! So just disappear! :)

Go back to your family who love you!!!! The JW's will never love you the way your family does!

Also try to encourage that newly baptized friend of yours to leave also.

Gojira

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Interesting experience last night

by Gojira_101 in

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i was hired to interpret for a church event in a neighboring town last night.

i did have a brief moment of thinking demon's would be jumping out to get me as i walked through the front doors of the church, hahahaha, not really, but it did feel awkward at first and i stuck very close to the other interpreter who asked me to help her.

i was definitely out of my comfort zone.. anyway last night i met james walker from the watchmen fellowship.

Gojira_101

I was hired to interpret for a Church event in a neighboring town last night. I did have a brief moment of thinking Demon's would be jumping out to get me as I walked through the front doors of the Church, hahahaha, not really, but it did feel awkward at first and I stuck very close to the other interpreter who asked me to help her. I was definitely out of my comfort zone.

Anyway last night I met James Walker from the Watchmen Fellowship. Very nice man! After his talk was finished I ended up talking to him for a good hour. I told him I was an ex-JW, and his eyes lit up! I can't say everything we talked about because it was a lot, but he wanted me to contact him about possibly doing some talks/activism relating to JW's. Which is something I wanted to do anyways, so I might have my connection now to get my foot in the door. The other interpreter I was with actually knows my story about leaving and knows what a hard time I've been having....and she has always been telling me that God has a plan....so when we were driving back home she told me..."I think God's plan is becoming clearer now for you. Maybe God wants you to help JW and ex-JW's"

It was funny though because at first he was trying to "help" me by explaining some of the basic things wrong with WTBT$ and several times when he was talking I would interrupt his sentence and finish it. I told him many times "I know! I know everything about WTBT$" I don't think he has ever met anyone who has been out of WTB$ for such a short time that has a good grip on reality. He asked if I was df'ed and I told him no and he was very nice in explaining how my family will shun me...etc. I started laughing and said....."it already happened. When they found out I was inactive they all pushed me out and called me an apostate...so at this point MR. Walker, I have nothing to lose. They all think I'm an apostate, so what if I start traveling to do talks about JW's if they find out. What will change? They already don't talk to me."

It was interesting and I hope things work out so I can help people. Really even though I lost my family, if I can help someone else's family or just help someone else...I would be happy. That is the bigger picture in my mind. That is really the only reason I come on JWn, to help those who are struggling with leaving or trying to leave, and also when I'm going through a hard time so I can get some help from all of you It would be great if I can do something on a larger scale now.

Thanks for reading!

Gojira

46

Why do JWs get married at a young age?

by XPeterX in

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ages like 20-25 or younger.i mean damn,a 21 year old guy in my congo got baptised a couple weeks back and now his in a relationship with a jw gal and their getting married soon.any thoughts?.

Gojira_101

HORNY!!!!!!

DaCheech: The whole having to get married thing 1-6 months...the elders force it on us. With my husband and I the elder actually threatened my husband and I. If we wanted him to marry us we had to get married ASAP! I guess he thought my husband and I would get into trouble..it doesn't matter that I was 28 and hubby was 25 at the time...oh yea we have raging hormones and can't control ourselves...Stupid!

Another example: I knew this couple who had been engaged 7 years. Finally the elders hauled them in the backroom and gave them an ultimatum. Either get married now or break up....so what did they do? They got married and last I heard they were having marital problems.

As far as getting married young, I don't know what to say. My parents were very young and they have been happily married for 34 years. Dad had just turned 18 and mom was 16. The elders gave them hell for that too.

It's a cult, they love to control every aspect of you life, even if you don't get married then they ask you why you're not married yet, if you do want to get married then they say you shouldn't get married. Even if you are married then you have the elders getting involved in your private lives...Thank God I'm out!

Gojira (I will never compromise my integrity)

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Question on the Watchmen?????

by Gojira_101 in

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i was looking at some of the info on the watchman's website.

i see some links to their website often on jwn, and i was wondering if any of you had any questions for them and the little work they have done on the jw cult.

what would you ask the watchmen?.

Gojira_101

I was looking at some of the info on the Watchman's website. I see some links to their website often on JWn, and I was wondering if any of you had any questions for them and the little work they have done on the JW cult. What would you ask the Watchmen?

I will be honest and say I haven't done much checking into their website to deeply or the articles they write.

So I'm sure there are many on here who are better informed as to that group. So what would you ask them?

There is a reason to my madness, and why I ask this. I will actually be meeting one of the Watchmen soon, in fact the person is on the board of directors. If any of you have questions, comments...etc that want me to relay a message, I will be happy to do it.

I'm hoping when I talk to this person I might be able to get my foot in the door so to speak to start doing some activism myself...not sure if I'm ready to start full throttle, but I have a plan and a method to my madness

Peace.

Gojira (I will never compromise on my integrity)

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I'M SERIOUS!!!! If you eat cupcakes you will die at the Big "A"

by Gojira_101 in

i was just doing dishes not really thinking about anything in particular, and all of a sudden this experience came flooding back and i started crying.. a few years ago i went back to one of the states i lived in to see/visit my friends (before i learned ttatt, i was still a happy borg at this time).. the friends i were staying with had two young girls, one was 3rd grade and the other was preschool.

so one day the father comes home after picking up the older girl (i think she was 7, 8...i'm not sure exactly this was several years ago) and she was all red and looked like she had been crying.

i noticed she had some blue at the corner of her mouth.

Gojira_101

@ LouBelle: I know it! I remember last summer when I was working, one of the students brought in homemade carrot cake with cream cheese frosting...OMG!!!! I was very much looking forward to grabbing a piece after I was done interpreting. Of course some asked why there was cake and the student who brought it said it was for the teacher because it was for his birthday.....So needless to say I left very disappointed because I didn't take a piece of cake. Looking back I can see how stupid that really is! I'm very much looking forward to celebrating my birthday in July, it's coming up soon :) I told my mom to make me birthday cupcakes. LOL. I will probably post pictures!

@Outsmartedthesystem: I really feel for you right now because of the situation you are in. I don't know where you live, but can you report your wife to the courts or child protective services (CPS)? To me this is mental abuse on your children, it's depriving them of a normal childhood. Your ex is using the fear monger tactics on them to follow her. If there is a good counselor who interviews your children, your kids will then tell them what the mom is really like. It's so NOT right!!!!!! I really hope you can get things worked out, and hopefully when your kids are older you can start to tell them TTATT and prevent them from joining the Borg. There has to be something you can do with either the courts or CPS, maybe a court order from the judge saying your ex can't interfere with what the children do while they are with you? Can you have a consult with a lawyer? Maybe once your youngest gets older and can keep a secret you can do more.

@tiki: I agree 100%, this is child abuse!

@Heaven: As you know even those the JW would have a problem with because they are monsters, and no true Christian would want anything to do with monster cupcakes...it's Satanic! I love the picture though!!!

@Mum: I was actually talking to a retired teacher and told her about this experience and she told me when she was a teacher she had a JW in her class, and she said his parents ALWAYS gave her hell. She said she felt horrible because this kid was always hungry and his step-mom (JW) would never give him enough food, so when there was a birthday party she felt horrible that she had to send the JW kid to the library and not feed him. It just makes me sick!!!!! But yes if teachers do this, they need to make sure the kids face shows no evidence of the cupcake eating. I also realized when I was talking to this retired teacher, she said one day she forgot this JW kid was in the room during a bday party and the teacher aid started to freak out because the kid was eating bday stuff and they were afraid of the parents! I always thought that teachers were horrible because they force the kids to eat these evil cupcakes, but you know what. I really think the teachers feel sorry for the kids and try to sneak them or the teachers just don't even think about it because the JW's are the abnormal ones.

@WTWizard: You make a valid point about all the "cupcakes" in this world. Not too long after I learned TTATT, I started to realize and remember all the "cupcakes" I missed out on. In the last month though, I'm start to almost relive my childhood, and do some of those things I've missed out on as a child and as an adult. It's just makes me so mad and frustrated that these parents tell their kids they are going to die at Big A if they eat a cupcakes, and yet don't educate their kids about molesters or teaching them to watch out for the really dangerous things. It's no wonder I turned out halfway descent being raised like this...Although my parents weren't like this at all. Sure they told me not to eat bday cupcakes, and not to do things WTBT$ said is wrong, but they were NEVER this mean and sick about it. Plus my dad also taught me to be a critical thinker, so that helped later when I started to wake up to TTATT. Thank God for that! It's sad and I agree with you. I wish this cult would be taken out!

Gojira (I will never compromise my integrity)

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