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Another sad non jw falling for a baptised jw girl story

by spirituk in

ok ,so this is my story , this jw girl came on vacation in my country as a friend of my girl-cousin who is not a jw but were classmates at uni .

my cousin introduced her to me but she didnt tell me that she was a jw from the very first moment we flirt each other.we went on beach ,on bars ,cafes etc and she acted so wordly ,in fact i thought she could be a good one night stand with her behaviour .never saw anything weird about her that could lead me to question something, with the peak in the club where we danced together while hugging very passionatly .

i tried to kiss her that night but she kept her distance , i didnt notice any bad on that.anyway, next day we flirt again at the the beach and at night too .

Gojira_101

The feelings she is talking about comes from the cult mind-control. All JW's believe that is we go against the "rules" not dating a nonjw that God will kill us. I know it's hard to understand but it all comes down to fear. I have only recently broke free of the JW's and this so far has been the hardest thing I've had to do in my life.

I truly am sorry for you and the pain you are going through, but this girl is deep in the cult and it's very hard to break away because if you do...you lose your whole life in that you lose your family...they think of you as dead, and you lose ALL of your friends. The JW's control by using fear. Fear of God and fear of losing your friends and family...

Ask anyone on here, it's happened to all of us that we lost someone when we left. My Aunt, cousin and my grandmother all refuse to talk to me and they think I'm scum and God is going to kill me because I left. If she leaves the JW's, that is probably what she is fearing. Fear of God and of losing her family.

It's hard I really do feel for you, but read the book the other person told you Crisis of Conscience...Also if you want to understand the mentality behind cults and mind control, Read some of Steven Hassan's books.

I know it doesn't make sense to you, but you are not fighting her, you are having to fight the cult mentality she has been indocternated with probably her whole life. The the JW's have a strong control over all of the members, and it's very hard to break free of it. I've been out 3 months and I'm still having to fight the pull back to the cult.

I'm not sure if this helped, but the best thing you can do is try to understand the fear and control. I was the good little JW girl, and I knew this man who wasn't a JW and he was very kind to me and I liked him a lot, but the JW in me at the time won out and I never gave him the time of day. My husband has told me about the problems he had when he was in highschool dating a nonjw and when his parents found out, they forced him to break up with the girl and he is still bothered by how me treated her. He didn't give her a reason as to why he broke up with her either. And he left her heart broken.

Peace be with you!

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Life after WT????

by Gojira_101 in

jw
friends

i'm just curious how many of the wonderful people on here have gone to another religion?.

i recently left the wtb$ and the non-jw friends of mine are all inviting me to their church.

i politely decline the invite saying i'm not ready.

Gojira_101

OMG Outlaw!!!!!! I love that!!!!!! That is the laugh I needed before work!

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I am new here and need help...or just a listening ear

by Fallingaway in

my husband and i have two small children, one of which recently became an unbaptised publisher and joined the school.

my husband is an elder and firmly committed to our family and loves me deeply as i love him.

i would like to find a way for all of us to fade away as we have family in the organization that we do not want to lose.

Gojira_101

I did forget to mention something. Since my husband and I have left, we feel so free now when we read the bible. We no longer have those feelings of worthlessness that I've grown up with my whole life. Even as a regular pioneer, I still left like I was worthless and no matter what I did I was still not doing enough and I was going to die at armageddon.

Now after reading the bible, I actually think I have a chance. and the feelings of guilt and being unworthy are gone. Also please read Daniel 11:32-35 and pay attention to verse 35. Does it not feel like a fire in us when we start learning what the real truth is? These scriptures helped my husband and I.

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I am new here and need help...or just a listening ear

by Fallingaway in

my husband and i have two small children, one of which recently became an unbaptised publisher and joined the school.

my husband is an elder and firmly committed to our family and loves me deeply as i love him.

i would like to find a way for all of us to fade away as we have family in the organization that we do not want to lose.

Gojira_101

Dear Falling away. My heart and prayers go out to you and your family. I have recently started researching my "nagging questions" and 3 months ago I decided to stop turning in service time. I'm truly sorry about the hardships you have been going through in your life as a JW. It is stories like these that have always made me question the "love" because what you have experienced is not love. I think you are at the point I was at 3 months ago. You are having the internal conflict that I had and still have. One thing that has helped me....read the bible and prayer....and to use a line from the WT. "Apostates tell half truths and lies", so if you are finding things that are half truth and lies being taught by the WT...then what are they?" I know that is very judgemental on my part, but even just simplely think about this....The truth on ANYTHING will always stand...no matter what lies are said about truth, it will stand. But the lies on the otherhand, lies will crumble and fall under the truth. The only truth out there is the bible. I understand with how you are with your husband. I had to and still have to do the same thing with mine. Tell him things in small amounts. We both have stopped going and in the beginning, I had to do it in small doses with him beause he would physically become sick. Research the WT history "outside" of the WT. Whatever you and your family decide to do, stay or leave, don't ever just blindly follow the WT, because there have been so many times I have heard them go against the bible and Jah and they think it's okay. What does the bible say about lying...is not Satan called the father of the lie? Or I can't remember the exact wording but something about there is no untruth found in God....why would Jah support someone who is lying? Most JW don't realize this the first sin was based on a lie. Satan lied to Eve and look what happened. So why would Jah "back" anything that is a lie? That is why Jah hates lying so much. Your aunt is right, this is a cult and once your eyes are open to that and/or you leave. You can see it. I'm not bitter towards the fellow JW's, I'm very sad by what the common publisher goes through. I'm bitter towards the fact of the mind control and fear the organization has put me through. Once you are in, you can't leave without losing something. Just last week my grandmother told my aunt that we are inactive and my parents and I have been labeled apostate and my aunt forbid my grandmother from talking to me and my mom. We are labeled apostates and now our mutual friends won't even listen to us to say we are not and all we really are is inactive. Also remember too, Jesus said you cannot hate your fellowman or brother and love God....(I'm probably wrong on the wording on that one too), there is hate among the JW, my aunt proves it and from what you said in your story to on how the "friends" treated you. If you want you can sent me a private message and since I'm still researching and trying to deal with the fear of leaving (yes even after 3months, I still have moments where I think I'm going to die and have fear of the ogranization, the organization, not fear of God, which there is something wrong with that, I know that, but then I pick up the bible and just start reading and there is something to bring me back in line with Jah's thinking and not the organizations thinking), so maybe we can help each other and with the experience with my husband, I had to take it very slow with him. As a side comment, I've come to realize that the PTSD my husband has, it's all but gone now since we have left and whenever he thinks we are going back to the JW's he starts having PTSD symtoms again and I have to tell he over and over, that we don't have to go back...So now I understand where his PTSD is from. Welcome to the board and I hope the wonderful folks on here can help you. I will be praying for you and your family. I know how hard this is. Jah bless you and your efforts.

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Life after WT????

by Gojira_101 in

jw
friends

i'm just curious how many of the wonderful people on here have gone to another religion?.

i recently left the wtb$ and the non-jw friends of mine are all inviting me to their church.

i politely decline the invite saying i'm not ready.

Gojira_101

Thank you for the comments. I'm not really looking to any religion because what more can they teach me. I've been reading the bible and just making sure in my own mind what the bible says. Being on here has helped a lot for my healing. I keep trying to get my husband to start posting on here because he has a lot of things the WT did to him and he needs to start healing. I know he needs time too.

I know one thing, since leaving the WTBT$ we both haven't had the fear like before. It feels so great to be free.

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Life after WT????

by Gojira_101 in

jw
friends

i'm just curious how many of the wonderful people on here have gone to another religion?.

i recently left the wtb$ and the non-jw friends of mine are all inviting me to their church.

i politely decline the invite saying i'm not ready.

Gojira_101

I'm just curious how many of the wonderful people on here have gone to another religion?

I recently left the WTB$ and the non-JW friends of mine are all inviting me to their church. I politely decline the invite saying I'm not ready. But honestly the reason is because I've been in the JW cult for almost 30 years and I don't see any religion on earth that is teaching "truth" per say. I also don't trust any other religion to not lie to me. I just left one controling religion and I'm not running to another one. I hope that makes sense.

I'm just curious how many other people on here have this same feeling or if they were able to find a church? Or did the JW's ruin you for life from trusting any other religion?

Peace!

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How Long has it Been since you Last Attended Meetings and What Caused...

by flipper in

jw
friends

..... you to stop attending ?

injustices ?

disagree with the teachings ?

Gojira_101

I was born and raised a JW. I've had a health problem with going into the KH because of all the perfumes...etc, so I made sure to listen in on the phone line and make sure I left mags in the laundry mat so I could count an hour each month. So I've been doing that for the last 6ish years and being isolated has helped me to open my mind to the things going on and all of the questions I always had about the beliefs became stronger. And 3 months ago My husband and I decided that was it. We tried listening to an MS friend of mines talk and I was so mad because his talk was on why we can trust 1914 and 607....I was ranting the whole time during the talk (nice thing about listening at home, you can openly ask your mate...did you hear that BS? or you can rant). That was the last time, I couldn't stomach it. That was end of Oct I think.

My husband and I are both so much happier now, even though I'm still dealing with some of my family shunning me. Oh well, I knew it was coming. I actually think it's funny because of how much hate they have for me and all I am is "inactive" although not officially inactive, I'm still just irregular and they are already calling me an apostate. LOL.

Since we have left my husband's PTSD with the JW's is almost all but gone now and he doesn't have the stress like before and myself. I don't have the deep down to the core tiredness I always had.

We both feel great.

I forgot, what caused it for me was my parents telling me to check out JWfacts....etc. and the final straw for me was seeing all the satanic images in the lit. For my husband it was the most recent thing about not even using the bible in service, just use your phone and type in a question on JW.org to have the householder questions answered by the WT.

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Anyone here who is still a Jehovahs Witness and havent given up yet, Please answer me!

by Vienna Angelika in

jw
friends

i am wanting to connect to current jws who are going through a tough time and are going through a similar time as me.

not any jw haters, just balanced concerned jws who havent quite given up yet..

Gojira_101

Hi Vienna,

I don't think there are to many haters on here...plus if there are, they are easy to see by their comments. I guess I'm still considered in, but haven't reported any service time for 3 months...It's hard because I was just going to go inactive so I could still talk to my family and now my aunt found out I haven't been in service for 3 months and right away I was accused of apostacy and she has forbidden me from talking to my grandmother and now it's spreading among my JW friends and they won't even talk to me now so I can tell them it's not true. I don't hate them, I actually feel bad for them that they are so afraid of me because "I'm an evil apostate" when it's not even true. I have my doubts and I have learned things about the JW history, but I've kept those things to myself and I haven't been spreading it around.

I understand your doubts and all I can say is read your bible, and also get a few other translations too just to compare, and keep your eyes open and if something goes against what things should be, goes against the bible, question it. The "truth" about anything will stand up against the lies, but the lies will crumble away. There are things the JW's teach that are lies and they will crumble away because the BIBLE will always stand against the lies.

I hope and pray you can find your way and most important ask Jehovah for guidence and to see what HIS truth is.

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Would Elders You Knew Have Ordered Stonings If They Could Have?

by Cold Steel in

for those of you who used to be jws, or who are active, if the society was in charge of the earth, how many people do you think you would have seen stoned during your lifetimes?

i realize some elders can be zealous about their work, but if they'd actually had administrative authority to have kh members stoned to death, how many elders did you know who would have been zealous enough to really order them?.

did you know any elders who would have ordered stonings, even if the condemned people had been willing to repent?.

Gojira_101

Many good comments so far and I do want to add my two cents.

I guess one of the reasons why the JW's are so afraid of people going for higher education is for the fact you almost always have to take Psychology classes. One of the basic things you will learn about human beings is the majority of people have the herd mentality. So with that is mind if you have one powerful elder or say even 2 or 3 elders who were to start "stoning" the herd mentality or the fear of how others would respond to us not joining in...oh wait doesn't the WT talk about this...what was it called....Oh yea, peer pressure....even if certain elders were against it, I think in some cases they would join in because everyone else is doing it. But there also might be some who would not join in. I know Psychologists have studied this A LOT and it's pretty compelling to see these cases. If you look at some of Philip Zimbardo's work he conducted some experiments that delt with this very thing of "power" It's interesting stuff.

Would elders stone someone? In a "non violent way" do they not do that to those who are DF'd? My family if we lived back in bible times would have stoned me just this week because they found out I was inactive and have all shunned me.

Have I known some elders that would stone someone? Yes. Almost ever elder I have met, I think would be capable of stoning me.....I have been in 3 congregrations over the years and everyone was the same. Men in power wanting full control and loyalty from the congregation and when my family or I would question them because they went against the bible....I can't even count how many times we have been threatened by the elders.

Those are my two cents

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"I got you something special," she said.

by irondork in

i was sitting at the computer reading posts at jw.net when the spousal unit told me she got me something special.. .

"you're really going to like these cookies.

" then she put the plate in front of me.. .

Gojira_101

I wonder when the WT bought peppridge farms? LOL. Now you can be indocternated from the inside out! LOL

Gojira_101

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