i apologize for having to.
delete my post.
fear of being found out.
~not interested~
Thank you for responding...I am not worried about
ANYONE on this forum being able to decipher "who I am".
It was more the "isp #" that set my clock of paranoia off!
I DO feel silly for so decidedly writing this post and then
deleting it...what I have at stake is greater than my need for
being "known and accepted."
Again,Thanks,
Undine
p.s.
I find it sadly ironic that the one I "fear" should not be anywhere NEAR this "apostate" site!!!!!!! ô¿ô
any of you who have ever read the electrifying book by john krakauer into thin air, that related the tragic events of 1998 expedition to conquer everest, will appreciate this work in progress song.
it needs polishing and you will need to turn up the volume.. it is named 'ghosts of the ascent'.
: http://www.dannyokeefe.com/sound/dok_ghosts.mp3.
~hillary_step~
What a BEAUTIFUL song. After listening to it
yesterday it's melancholy tune kept coming back into my mind...
Much enjoyed,
Undine
i apologize for having to.
delete my post.
fear of being found out.
Wow, I'm glad at least a couple of you
got to read about my "jw journey" before I
freaked out and deleted it! Thought that
maybe I gave away too much personal information
and could be "identified."
THANK YOU OUTLAW & datsdethspicable for your
heartening sentiments! ~¿~
And, Not interested, I very much appreciated
hearing a bit of your experience. I am sorry
that the lie that was told about you was believed.
I can relate! Bigtime!
I wish you much happiness in your life...
Undine
i apologize for having to.
delete my post.
fear of being found out.
I apologize for having to
delete my post.
Fear of being found out
and I cannot risk that.
Undine
ok......it has taken me lots of soul searching to put this post up (it contains some facts i dont really feel all that comfortable putting up).
but i will try and leave out here for as long as i can.. it is an email i have sent to my dad.
it is a followup - he has some of the info on the un already.
~msil~
Your experiences are deeply touching.
I remember the years of hearing
the words from the platform "and some of our
dear brothers even go to prison, making their
stand for Jehovah..." And nothing more was ever
said about any sort of intensity of life they
were forced to endure while there.
And so, we the "members" can file "our brothers
in prison" into a very tidy little corner of our
minds...and not think about it any more. PATHETIC!!!
Reading your experiences/ordeals made me feel literally
weak. I am so very sorry that you had to live through
this. I would like to add one more heartfelt Thank You
for sharing what you went through.
Warmly,
Undine
this just came to me while i was sitting here.
i know, it belongs in the arts forum but it's for newly-outs or 'on the way outs' and they're more likely to find it here.. .
i know that's what you have been told,.
~Esmeralda~
Your poem is simply and perfectly
BEAUTIFUL. Thank You for it!
Undine
since i've been on the net i've met so many people that have problems.
seeing their own children where jw parents have custody,or where.
former partners decide to convert to jdubism,.
~Nelly~
Thanks alot...I am glad you are not
facing it yourself! If I ever get any concrete
info. I'll be sure to share it with you.
I would like to communicate with anyone
on this board who is facing or has faced this
issue of being alienated from their child as a
result of jw influence. As of yet I've not
met anyone who has had their life manipulated
by the religion in this particular sense.
Again, Nelly, thanks for this post!
Take care,
Undine
since i've been on the net i've met so many people that have problems.
seeing their own children where jw parents have custody,or where.
former partners decide to convert to jdubism,.
Nelly,
I jumped to attention when I saw
your post...I'm sorry, no, I have no
helpful information to give regarding support
groups or lawyers who deal with jws/custody,
but if you find out anything I would love
it if you'd send me an e-mail with the information.
I "lost" my daughter (in an emotional
sense, which also translated into a "physical"
sense, even though we have Joint Custody)
to her jw "elder" father and I for one would
greatly appreciate any input on this tragic subject.
I did discover many insights about the reality of
"Parental Alienation Syndrome" on this website and
others like it: http://www.mall4us.com/parentnPAS.htm
Thank you for your post and I'm sorry if this is a
situation you find yourself in. It is an intensely sad one,
and that, of course, is an understatement.
Warmly,
Undine
i'd like to find out how many years collectively we have acquired in the wts.
please list how many years you were/have been a jw.
please also list how many years you have been out.
In-28 years
Out-1 year
"I painted my own reality" -FRIDA KAHLO
my wife and i met with 3 elders for a "judicial hearing".. our crime: simply put, was talking.
i showed a friend the un website where the wts was listed as an ngo which then led to a 2 hour discussion of various doubts that we both have had.
my wife also showed a friend the un thing but also discussed with her a first hand account of a pedophile cover-up that we knew about in our former congregation.
Badwillie,
I am so sorry that you and your wife
are going through this gross emotional upheaval!
It is just...so...W R O N G!!!!!!!
Undine
