has anybody been and read the info on the e-watchman.com site?
http://www.e-watchman.com.
there are some interesting views especially about the demise of the organisation.. i can't help feeling that there is a guru-esque style about it but i found it interesting.. anyone else?
Thanks for your comments. He does seem to speak out of both sides doesn't he (or she).
What (s)he is preaching is so out of step with WTBS dogma that it is hard to see how (s)he can still go to meetings. As I said in the original post it is a bit too guruistic for me and too definite, rather than an opinion it is presented as a statement of fact - like the WTS.
has anybody been and read the info on the e-watchman.com site?
http://www.e-watchman.com.
there are some interesting views especially about the demise of the organisation.. i can't help feeling that there is a guru-esque style about it but i found it interesting.. anyone else?
Has anybody been and read the info on the e-Watchman.com site? http://www.e-watchman.com
There are some interesting views especially about the demise of the organisation.
I can't help feeling that there is a guru-esque style about it but I found it interesting.
Anyone else?
one thing i find about a lot of the british !!
!boy do they complain !!!
about the weather,bus system,trains, etc,etc,etc, i was there last year & i really had to laugh i went through the whole day once counting "complaints" ( they were numerous) when i asked one soul "what are you doing about it?
Oh, absolutely, old man. You know, ;I was saying just that same thing to my wife the other day,
whislt queueing up for God knows what and for God knows how long.
Have you seen the price of potatoes and don't get me started on runner beans.
You know, those yankee chappies, across the pond, don't know they are alive.
They come over here in their Rupert bear trousers and scarfs and want to know how far it is to
Cornwall. I tell them, oh a bout 250 -300 miles or so, take you about 5 hours, bit of a run
I'm afraid. They snort (as only they can) Bit of a run, why in the 'states we go 7hunnered mile
withou' blinkin'. Fine I says, but then your roads are straight and empty
(thinks...like your head) but here we have a thing called the
Bank Holiday where the roads shrink to single file one way street with no escape.
Oh well, they will see for themselves. By Jingo, I do believe it is time for tea, so pip pip you fellows.
if you are an 'old timer' and wonder why the watchtower and awake.
magazines are so bland and lacking in content, it may come as no surprize.
to you that it's often because a number of topics are 'off limits'.. that is, certain subjects are so troublesome to the watchtower leadership.
Yeah, I remember about the demons. There were loads of urban myths about people being held in chairs so they couldn't open the door to have a study and paintings that wouldn't burn and other such stuff. Mind you, they still cling to 'It's a blessing' if something good happens and 'It's satan' if something bad happens. I noted that armed forces etc was mentioned - as not being mentioned by the Soc. Maybe it is to do with the Mexican scam of bribing officials to say you had done service to get a cartilla, or whatever, despite also being enrolled as a reservist - how many were read out as D'ad themselves.
In fact, the whole witness work is dumbed down. I looked through so old and not so old books and noted that there was hardly a line and wash illustration in them. Now they are all pictures. Maybe they should come with little pencils and puzzles to do or dot-to-dot. 'My book of bible dot-to-dot'
or 'Colouring in the Great Teacher' (with pack of six bright colouring pencils)
Or 'My witnessing outfit' complete with suit and tie (safe knot), play bible with one or two verses, S8 (except UK and Europe - data protection act) play mags and blow up biblestudy person with no naughty bits.
Hmmm, might be a business opportunity there if I can get the FDS to endorse it as a family study aid.
since the program and at other times when jw's are 'in the news' i have always been told that.
'jehovah's people' would not do that kind of thing etc.. a typical response to the panorama was 'it's all apostates isn't it' or 'they were good actors' - .
yeah, right the guy in 'cuffs being lead to the clink, great acting.. what is my point you ask, mildly.. it is this.
Yes I agree. What should have happened is the WTS should have held up their hands and said 'Yes, we have a problem (Huston :) ). We are looking into it. We accept that our policy was wrong and we apologise unreservedly to all those affected by it.' But that may have cost too much in qudos and 's. But it would have at least been honest. But all we got were weasle words and spin. Shame on them.
since the program and at other times when jw's are 'in the news' i have always been told that.
'jehovah's people' would not do that kind of thing etc.. a typical response to the panorama was 'it's all apostates isn't it' or 'they were good actors' - .
yeah, right the guy in 'cuffs being lead to the clink, great acting.. what is my point you ask, mildly.. it is this.
This is true, blondie, and not in contention. It just struck me that 'Jehovah's People' dont't
believe that 'Jehovah's People' do anything 'worldy' and are exempt from the temptations and frailties that affect all mankind. I remember being told that we (JW's) don't get depressed because we 'have the kingdom'. I was always being told to wear my kingdom smile. 'Where's your kingdom smile?' they would say. You'd end up like some cheshire cat if they had their way.
Edited by - uriah on 19 July 2002 12:12:3
since the program and at other times when jw's are 'in the news' i have always been told that.
'jehovah's people' would not do that kind of thing etc.. a typical response to the panorama was 'it's all apostates isn't it' or 'they were good actors' - .
yeah, right the guy in 'cuffs being lead to the clink, great acting.. what is my point you ask, mildly.. it is this.
Since the program and at other times when JW's are 'in the news' I have always been told that
'Jehovah's People' would not do that kind of thing etc.
A typical response to the Panorama was 'It's all apostates isn't it' or 'they were good actors' -
yeah, right the guy in 'cuffs being lead to the clink, great acting.
What is my point you ask, mildly.
It is this. The bible is full of incidents of 'Jehovahs People' doing the most appaling things.
One that come to mind is child sacrifice to molech. Blatant apostacy, worhiping Baal. @jehovah is not seeing us', they trill. What!. Surely not! Jehovah's People don't do that sort of thing!
Another matter, if the Panorama team asked TJ at the assembly about the trinity or somesuch, would they have got the same kind of response.
It seems to me that 'spiritual israel' more than mimicks fleshly israel of old.
Well, tha is my 2p's worth.
would it assist if during the next day or so, i compile a list of uk tv documentary and media news providers, post the details here, upon which our american and elsewhere counterparts may then personally assist us with clanking the uk media machine up a few notches upon these issues?.
upon the can, rurulnet and ukonline centres intranets, the program has been advertised which is also seen by many of the uk tpo business people.. can we see more teamwork please?.
take care all.. celtic mark
Blimey English, that must explain why my video tapes keep catching fire, I say's to my wife 'Why do we keep the VCR in the kitchen'
'I dunno' she says, 'when are you going to fix the toaster in the living room'
'I dunno' I says.....
The long winter evenings just fly by...
would it assist if during the next day or so, i compile a list of uk tv documentary and media news providers, post the details here, upon which our american and elsewhere counterparts may then personally assist us with clanking the uk media machine up a few notches upon these issues?.
upon the can, rurulnet and ukonline centres intranets, the program has been advertised which is also seen by many of the uk tpo business people.. can we see more teamwork please?.
take care all.. celtic mark
I know how to use my VCR, thank you very much, and shall be recording the aforementioned program.
My digits, thank you, have been nowhere that I would not care to mention and I think that is a bit rich
coming from someone called Dungbeetle, whose namesakes spend their entire life rolling up
dung for later consumption and other equally revolting things. I rest my case m'lud. :-)
i've been reading the publications of the wt society for 55 years and my grandmother many years before that and the term "soon" has lost it's meaning.
it's time to use "someday" in it's place.
if someone says that i will be home soon, and you die of old age before they show up, i would think they had lied to me.
Fran, you are so right. Trouble is I didn't put them in. I mucked up my password and the post was saved for me to copy and paste
which I did a la instructions.
