Never mind, I found it using the cd (why didn't I think of that first) here it is: *** Ssb song 125 “Jehovah Is on My Side” *** I know that in this crucial hour My faith will yet be tested. Around me swarms the Devil’s crowd Like bees that were molested. But I can ever beat them off Beneath divine protection. On those who love to bear his name, God sets his deep Now, I assume the songwriter knew all about molesting, I guess as there were no vunerable children about bees seemed like the next best thing. Unless someone has a better reason. I can't get this to format properly, sorry must be those damn bees.
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46Kingdom Melodies and Hidden Messages
by inbyathread inthere has been talk about wt imagery and the use of subtle hypnotism during meetings.. we had a co who very forcefully wanted the piano players axed and the canned music used for the singing.. has there been any studies done to find sub-harmonic messages hidden in the music?.
paranoia and conspiracy artists may now address.
thanks.
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Kingdom Melodies and Hidden Messages
by inbyathread inthere has been talk about wt imagery and the use of subtle hypnotism during meetings.. we had a co who very forcefully wanted the piano players axed and the canned music used for the singing.. has there been any studies done to find sub-harmonic messages hidden in the music?.
paranoia and conspiracy artists may now address.
thanks.
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uriah
I stand to be corrected on this and I am too lazy to read through the whole song book to find it but is there a passage that goes "...blah blah blah molested by bees...." not the blah blah bit but the molested by bees bit?
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Out of the blue
by uriah ini was thinking the other day about a problem and you know how one thought leads to another and you go off at a tangent and arrive somewhere totally unrelated to what you where thinking about.
well i arrived at a time when i was walking home from work.
i pass by (thankfully) a cemetary and i was looking at all the graves thinking (at the time i was a good dubby but not very active by-the-by)about the ressurection and how i hoped not to die and all the usual programmed stuff when out of the blue a thought, as though injected by some other-worldy means entered my head and said, clear as a bell "what if it's not true".
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uriah
Hmmm, I need to explain myself better I think - sorry, was having a ramble. This was about 5 years ago. JUNI - The thought that "what if it was not true" is/was the whole JW concept, as I looked at all the graves and thought good dubbie thoughts, resurection, life eternal, never dying - I think it hit me that I might just die (other than by accident or illness).
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Out of the blue
by uriah ini was thinking the other day about a problem and you know how one thought leads to another and you go off at a tangent and arrive somewhere totally unrelated to what you where thinking about.
well i arrived at a time when i was walking home from work.
i pass by (thankfully) a cemetary and i was looking at all the graves thinking (at the time i was a good dubby but not very active by-the-by)about the ressurection and how i hoped not to die and all the usual programmed stuff when out of the blue a thought, as though injected by some other-worldy means entered my head and said, clear as a bell "what if it's not true".
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I was thinking the other day about a problem and you know how one thought leads to another and you go off at a tangent and arrive somewhere totally unrelated to what you where thinking about. Well I arrived at a time when I was walking home from work. I pass by (thankfully) a cemetary and I was looking at all the graves thinking (at the time I was a good dubby but not very active by-the-by)about the ressurection and how I hoped not to die and all the usual programmed stuff when out of the blue a thought, as though injected by some other-worldy means entered my head and said, clear as a bell "What if it's not true". I had a sort of mental panic, struggling like a drowing person to grasp at something solid. Why did I think that? where did it come from? Despite trying to rationalise my beliefs and re-affirm them and run through the programming - the two witnesses, Jehovah's name, his people being named, the trumpet blasts and all the other stuff it did not work. It was like the walls of Jericho tumbling down and as fast as I tried to re-build another breach would appear and all I could think of was "What if it's not true". Needless to say, the thought was correct but at the time it was unsettling. I doubt that I am alone in this kind of experience. Am I?
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Ray Franz CoC, was he in denial? Just asking.
by Wasanelder Once ini was reading a little coc last night where ray f. disusses the witch hunt at bethel that resulted in all the oustings.
as i read the doctrines that he questioned, (not judging him right or wrong), i noticed that he was questioning some of the fundamental beliefs of the wt.
ie: gov.
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uriah
I really don't see how Ray Franz's being in denial or not is important. What is important is that he wrote two books that have helped many hundreds if not thousands of people including me. I did not feel he was looking for followers nor power, if he wanted that he would have stayed as a GB member, whatever the cost. In corporations the man at the top recruits those most like him/herself. This cascades down the hierachy so that there is a continuous supply of 'company (wo)men. Sometimes they get it wrong and appoint someone who thinks a bit differently or just thinks. When that happens they become a threat and are got rid of. I believe that this was the case with Ray Franz. I often used to wonder, on my way out of the WTBT$, what compelled the top brass to stay, seeing as they had no money, vow of poverty and the like. Then it came to me. Power. The power to control 6 million people. To have thousands hanging on your every word at an assembly and applauding statements you make and the adoration, veneration even of 'your' followers would be very addictive. You can see this in the local congregations, all the wannabees jockying for position, brown noseing and up the elders/co/do fundus so far that all you could see were the soles of their feet. Ray Franz's book helped me to see this clearly and many other things and I thank him for it. I don't want to be his follower and I am pretty sure he doesn't want any either. Re: Ray Franz CoC, was he in denial? Just asking. - Why?
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Revelation book revisions in Sept KM
by becca1 inthe insert in this months km is 4 pages of revisions for the rev.
book i am going over them one by one.
most seem pretty insignificant, updated figures and such.
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uriah
You know this reminds me of those perpetual sales in furniture shops - DFS or SCS and the like. Get this sofa for half price and then an extra 10% off only £650! Then you see in small pale words - ASP £1500, the 'After Sale Price'. What they mean is that when the 'Sale' ends - which it never does - the price they INTEND to charge will be £1500. Well, the WTS INTENDS the prophecy to come true but until it does work your butt off for us which is a small price to pay to not be bird food, when the time comes.
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Why WHITBY is so important to us all!
by Gill inthe phrase is 'the truth is out there' and when we stumble across it by accident, it can't help but make a person wonder what else they never knew, and how pieces of the jigsaw gradually begin to fit together as we search for the 'truths of history'.. i love whitby.
whitby is a small town in the north yorkshire moors.
it sits on the coast with the magnificent ruins of whitby abbey dominating the sky line.
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uriah
Also whitby was where Dracula stopped off for a bite to eat too.
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I know I shouldn't let it but it gets right up my nose
by uriah inwhen i am having a conversation with a family member who is a jw about the jw's and how i wasted the best years of my life following a cult, they come back with .
"yes but being a jw saved you from std's, drugs..." and all the usual stuff jw's are supposed to be protected from.
it seems to me that jw's think that they are the only people in the world who do the right thing and anyone else is up to their neck in crap, doing drugs and other unsplendid things and being a jw 'saved' me from these things as i am bound to have done them if i hadn't have been one.
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uriah
Hello Jayhawk, yes, long time no post. I do appear now and then. I decided to have a rant today, seemed a nice day for it and I thought why not?
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I know I shouldn't let it but it gets right up my nose
by uriah inwhen i am having a conversation with a family member who is a jw about the jw's and how i wasted the best years of my life following a cult, they come back with .
"yes but being a jw saved you from std's, drugs..." and all the usual stuff jw's are supposed to be protected from.
it seems to me that jw's think that they are the only people in the world who do the right thing and anyone else is up to their neck in crap, doing drugs and other unsplendid things and being a jw 'saved' me from these things as i am bound to have done them if i hadn't have been one.
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uriah
McDuck (is that with fries?) sorry, poor joke. Hello to you too. I didn't notice the boo boo - I never got very high marks in the written review.
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I know I shouldn't let it but it gets right up my nose
by uriah inwhen i am having a conversation with a family member who is a jw about the jw's and how i wasted the best years of my life following a cult, they come back with .
"yes but being a jw saved you from std's, drugs..." and all the usual stuff jw's are supposed to be protected from.
it seems to me that jw's think that they are the only people in the world who do the right thing and anyone else is up to their neck in crap, doing drugs and other unsplendid things and being a jw 'saved' me from these things as i am bound to have done them if i hadn't have been one.
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uriah
Thank you poppers, as I mentioned earlier I have been around for a while, just not posted much.