Of course Wifibandit! I'll send it in a PM! I've been going through it and only two dates of baptism are given as an approximate. I'll provide more details in the PM!
avaddohn94
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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again
by Designer Stubble inguess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again
by Designer Stubble inguess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
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avaddohn94
I find this chart interesting when talking about "generations".
Even though Russell is not being considered part of the faithful and discreet slave, I think this chart clearly shows how we pass from one generation to another and the fact that the "overlapping" explanation could be applied to thousands of generations (you could stretch it as far as you may want to or need to).
The chart specifies the year when the person was born and baptized. How old they were when they were baptized, the year when they were appointed to the GB or Board of Directors or whatever you may want to call it, how old they were when they were "appointed", those who resigned, the year when they died and how many years they were part of the governing body and at what age they died.
I have copied the data in a separate chart and boy, you can really play around these statistics. For instance, you can identify those who baptized before reaching 15 years old and even make projections for the current members. You can see that Mark Sanderson was born 113 years after Russell and that he was only 10 when he baptized etc.
Anyway, the point is that if we consider the term generation according to its actual definition; i.e., the average length of time between the birth of parents and the birth of their children (Merriam Webster's) which in most countries ranges from 20 to 30 years; since 1852 the world has seen nearly 8 generations. Currently, we're saying goodbye to those who were born in the 1930s (4 generations after Russell's) and there's no way in which any "scaremonger" can change that...
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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again
by Designer Stubble inguess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
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avaddohn94
And to think that for over a decade, we were told to believe quite the opposite. The "Generation" teaching is a clear example of a doctrine that shifts back and forth with most people just shrugging their shoulders and accepting whatever crap they're told.
This is from the Watchtower article, "Questions From Our Readers" dated June 1, 1997, pg. 28:
Questions From Our Readers
“The Watchtower" of November 1, 1995, focused on what Jesus said about "this generation" as we read Matthew 24:34. Does this mean that there is some question about whether God's kingdom was set up in heaven in 1914?
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With similar sincere intentions, God’s servants in modern times have tried to derive from what Jesus said about “generation” some clear time element calculated from 1914. For instance, one line of reasoning has been that a generation can be 70 or 80 years, made up of people old enough to grasp the significance of the first world war and other developments; thus we can calculate more or less how near the end is.
However well-meaning such thinking was, did it comply with the advice Jesus went on to give? Jesus said: “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. . . . Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.”—Matthew 24:36-42.
So the recent information in The Watchtower about “this generation” did not change our understanding of what occurred in 1914. But it did give us a clearer grasp of Jesus’ use of the term “generation,” helping us to see that his usage was no basis for calculating—counting from 1914—how close to the end we are."
Back in the 90's besides this kind of more balanced teaching, we also had the 'higher education' policy softened a little bit. I believe Barbara Anderson has explained something regarding the liberals vs. the hard-liners but I often wonder who the liberals were (and if any remain maybe not as part of the GB but within the "helpers" group).
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Angola BANS ISLAM and MUSLIMS. Calls it a sect.
by PaintedToeNail inangola has banned islam and closed the mosques, saying that it is a sect and counter to the culture of the country.. http://www.worldbulletin.net/headlines/163865/angola-bans-islam-shuts-down-mosques .
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avaddohn94
I believe this is an old story that resurfaces every now and then. Now, I may be wrong but if you search the web, you will find the Angolan government denying the same note almost two years ago.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/28/angola-accused-banning-islam-mosquesLike I said, maybe this time it's for real but, I think such a report would have been more spread by renowned agencies and media if it were true.
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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again
by Designer Stubble inguess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
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Geoffrey Jackson's Golden Apple watch INVESTIGATED
by C0ntr013r ini went through the original footage to get a good look at the watch.. from these pictures we can probably say that it is a apple watch and that it has a golden color.
the color on the pin is black, and the band is white, grey, silvery or beige.. .
the pin is in the exact place for it to be a apple watch.. only apple watch edition have the gold color.
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avaddohn94
If what Calebs Airplane says it's true. Well, here you have my contribution to force Geoffrey to keep his Apple Watch on his night stand for a while! -
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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015): Serving Single - Do not use JW dating sites!
by Designer Stubble inaround the 39:00 minute mark the focus shifts to a single sister who cannot find a mate.
at the 42:30 minute mark she states "i cannot believe it crossed my mind...to look on jw dating sites".
guess a new unwritten rule is added to the many oral traditions of these pharisees.
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avaddohn94
Well, it'll be funny how those facebook administrators of groups for single witnesses understand this "new light".
Those of us who speak Spanish are acquainted with a JW fanatic named "José Antonio Gutiérrez García" who has created a thousand JW-related facebook groups.
He's know for sharing pictures, posting rumors and sharing "exclusive news" with his facebook followers.
Well, this guy has created various groups for "single JW" and is very proud of those weddings that have taken place as a result of his dating site.
Now, he's been reported to his own elders in Granada, Spain several times for his conduct (he's quite a case of fanatism) but, I wonder if anyone will report him for disobeying this new rule on dating sites!
Below you can see two captions, one where he proudly announces creating a new group for single JWs who speak portuguese and the other is his actual group in Spanish with 1242 members as of today!
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WE NEED MORE FIELD SERVICE REPORTS (Letter sent to Ecuador)
by elkatire1980 inthis letter was sent to all congregations in ecuador (south america).. the translation into english of the letter:.
to body ofelders.
subject: publisher who did not report field service time in the second semester of service year.. dear brothers:.
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avaddohn94
I see a difference with the typical instructions sent every year by this time of the year: The fact that they "have reasons to believe" that the number of publishers was higher and the emphasis put on the instructions to count "twice (or more times)" the publishers that deliver their late field service slips.
Now, if they actually start doing what the letter sent to Poland describes (making lists of inactive ones and sending such data to their respective branches) they might be going too far. Though they would try to mask it as their typical "we intend to provide those people with spiritual help", they would actually be showing their true colors.
Allow me to quote a book entitled "Revisiting Holocaust Representation in the Post-Witness Era" (page 12):
"The Nazis pursued what they called restlose Erfassung, which means a total registering, without loose ends; an expression that connotes also 'all-embracing seizure'. This ambition led to a fanatic policy of counting, making lists and conducting censuses."
If the indoctrinated friends cannot clearly see how similar the Watchtower methods are to those of the Nazis or any other absolutist regime, I don't know if there's any hope for us to rescue them from this shameful organization.
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WE NEED MORE MONEY! (Letter sent to Mexico re: JW Broadcasting of May 2015).
by avaddohn94 ini don't know if they're making similar arrangements in other parts of the world but below you will find the letter (and the translation attempt) they're sending to all the congregations in mexico and central america asking them to modify their september 21 and september 28 service meeting programs.. after watching jackson's gold apple watch and lett's pinky ring one can only assume they are a bunch of brazen, shameless and greedy bastards!.
the letter has already been uploaded at the spanish forum and you can find it if you click here or see the attached picture.. the translation "attempt" is as follows:.
august 1, 2015. to all congregations.
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avaddohn94
In reply to Gayle:
In Spanish we have a similar forum at extj.com.
As for other sites, many of us have created blogs (which as you know, are not to be relied according to the Study Edition of October 15, 2015) in order to, little by little, spread the word.
Now, although still a developing country, Mexico appears as the 11th place on the list of countries by GDP considering the purchasing power parity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)) and as we know, the Watchtower always "looks before it leaps" (in Spanish we would say "no da un paso sin huarache" or "does not take a step without its sandals on") so...
Regards!
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WE NEED MORE MONEY! (Letter sent to Mexico re: JW Broadcasting of May 2015).
by avaddohn94 ini don't know if they're making similar arrangements in other parts of the world but below you will find the letter (and the translation attempt) they're sending to all the congregations in mexico and central america asking them to modify their september 21 and september 28 service meeting programs.. after watching jackson's gold apple watch and lett's pinky ring one can only assume they are a bunch of brazen, shameless and greedy bastards!.
the letter has already been uploaded at the spanish forum and you can find it if you click here or see the attached picture.. the translation "attempt" is as follows:.
august 1, 2015. to all congregations.
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avaddohn94
Island Man2 minutes agoIs this service meeting viewing only going to be done in Mexico, or will it be done worldwide. The letter is addressed "to all congregations" and I see no indications from the contents that it is limited to Mexico.
Like I said at first, I'm not aware if this is being done at a worldwide level. Now, the way in which they're asking elders to modify those two weeks of their original Service Meeting arrangements makes me think it could be limited to Mexico.
