Posts by alecholmesthedetective

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More connect-the-dots madness...

by cedars in

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that's right, a knife and a baby in close proximity.... .

http://www.jw.org/assets/m/ijw13fr/502013178/ijw13fr_id-502013178_e/502013178_e_cnt_1.pdf.

anything goes, so long as you're proving how "wise" king solomon was.. .

alecholmesthedetective

Apognophos, I don't know why but I have this sinking feeling that you may be a Watchtower troll.

Alec

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Watchtowerinvestigation.com

by mouthy in

can anyone get this?.

A conversation about universal sovereignty

by outsmartthesystem in

"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.

both the angels and humans needed to see this.

me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?

A conversation about universal sovereignty

by outsmartthesystem in

"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.

both the angels and humans needed to see this.

me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?

Watchtowerinvestigation.com

by mouthy in

can anyone get this?.

I think one can recognize in Meleti's posts signs of cognitive dissonance. I understand it because for a while I tried to hang on to 'the truth', afraid of losing friends and family and the hope for the future, everlasting life on a paradise earth in perfection, facing the impending destruction at Armageddon.

But no more. I personally could not give my support and allegiance to a destructive cult who actively protects paedophiles and whose harmful policies and mind control destroy people's lives.

Alec

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At JW.Org, for kids, a connect the dots coloring page of Lot's wife turning into salt.

by Theocratic Sedition in

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http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/picture-activities/lots-wife-becomes-salt/.

is it me or is this kinda sick?

i mean i can understand learning from the account, but this is kinda deviant.

alecholmesthedetective

A miniature model of Jehovah's hierarchical organization, with complete heavenly chariot, set of angels, and action figures of R&F publishers in field service, elders, COs, DOs, BC members, and (drum rolls): the eight members of the Governing Body with sound--all the phrases PunkofNice mentioned and more...

"Going to university is like shooting yourself in the head"

"Jehovah's people are the thinkingest people on earth!"

"We are the Faithful and Discreet Slave"...

PS: Jesus action figure not included.

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More connect-the-dots madness...

by cedars in

jw
friends

that's right, a knife and a baby in close proximity.... .

http://www.jw.org/assets/m/ijw13fr/502013178/ijw13fr_id-502013178_e/502013178_e_cnt_1.pdf.

anything goes, so long as you're proving how "wise" king solomon was.. .

alecholmesthedetective

How about Jael pinning Sisera's temples to the ground?

Judah sleeping with a prostitute, I mean, his daughter-in-law...

Samson eating honey from the lion's carcass...

Judas Iscariot's intestines rolling down the hill with him...

Cain killing Abel...

Miriam stricken with leprosy...

Elijah slaughtering Baal's prophets...

Gehazi being cursed by Elisha with leprosy...

Eli falling backward and dying from a broken neck...

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A conversation about universal sovereignty

by outsmartthesystem in

"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.

both the angels and humans needed to see this.

me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?

alecholmesthedetective

Hmm, Jesus was born perfect out of an imperfect woman, so Jehovah did know how to fix it!

I was reading some scriptures about children paying for the sins of their parents and alas, was bit confused...

You must not bow down to them nor be induced to serve them, because I Jehovah your God am a God exacting exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation, in the case of those who hate me.—Exodus 20.5

6 And Jehovah went passing by before his face and declaring: “Jehovah, Jehovah, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving-kindness and truth, 7 preserving loving-kindness for thousands, pardoning error and transgression and sin, but by no means will he give exemption from punishment, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons and upon grandsons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation.”—Exodus 34.6, 7

Fathers should not be put to death on account of children, and children should not be put to death on account of fathers. Each one should be put to death for his own sin.—Deuteronomy 24.16

The soul that is sinning—it itself will die. A son himself will bear nothing because of the error of the father, and a father himself will bear nothing because of the error of the son. Upon his own self the very righteousness of the righteous one will come to be, and upon his own self the very wickedness of a wicked one will come to be.—Ezekiel 18.20

Anyway, Tater-T I have to agree with you. What was it that Jesus said again? "That one was a manslayer when he began." (John 8.44) So, the WT always taught us this means that Satan is responsible for all the deaths in the world. So Adam and Eve died 'in the same day' in God's eyes but Satan and those who later became his demons are still alive and kicking making the world a bloody mess. Hmm, curious.

Are Satan and the demons imperfect because they've sinned? That always subconsciously bothered me, how angels could sin and get away with it for thousands of years. Oh, they're not immortal, I get it, they can be destroyed by God. But they continue being superhuman adversaries of God's people out to test their loyalty to God? 6000 years of experience catching humans, beginning with successfully misleading the first two perfect humans in history plus having higher mental capacity and superpowers? That's an unfair advantage, God!

Oh, let's give Jehovah a break, since his standards of justice kidnapped mankind from him when Adam sinned. So to save mankind (he needed believers on earth too after he spent all that time getting it ready for man) God lets his own son come to earth and offer himself as a human sacrifice to pay the price of the ransom to God even though he wasn't the kidnapper!

Meanwhile he lets a psychopathic killer—Satan—and his accomplices on the loose killing billions of people to prove why he should arrest them thousands of years in the future, for a thousand years, to them let loose again so they mislead a lot of the people alive so that he can only then put an end to all this killing once and for all by finally executing Satan, his demons, and all those they successfully mislead.

All this, of course, will settle once and for all why we should all subject ourselves to him and give up our free will to him, because if we don't do as he says and are not thankful for the expensive price he payed to save us in the first place, he'll have to kill us!

I mean, I don't think personally I would support a government policy of letting psychopaths/serial killers for thousands of years on the loose to prove why the best course is having the government/police maintaining order in the first place.

In my book, Jehovah seems disturbingly similar to Palpatine/Hitler/Caesar in creating a war so he could claim his right to stay in power.

And I have to agree with Phizzy, Jehovah had better not bring Armageddon before the end of the decade because I have a lot in my bucket list, I'm waiting for the next Star Wars movies just to see how they will turn out, the 3rd series of the BBC Sherlock, the final episodes of Series 7 of Doctor Who, the next Hobbit films, and the fall of the WT (now THAT is an important issue).

Alec

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Why is the "Shepherd the Flock of God" book only viewed by Elders?

by I_love_Jeff in

if the shephard book contains rules taken from the nwt, then why is one held confidential and the other not viewed as such?

if the sheep are not allowed to view the elders manual then they should not be allowed to view/read the nwt.. "the following page shows an excerpt from one of the official letter that was sent to the elders regarding the importance of keeping this book confidential:.

(note: the "kingdom ministry school" referred to in the letter is a training program for elders and ministerial servants; the 1991 kingdom ministry textbook referred to is the previous version that the"shepherd the flock of god" book replaces)".

alecholmesthedetective

Seriously, if elders are considered by the Borg to be only 'spiritual shepherds', and not qualified to investigate or evaluate allegations of child abuse on a criminal level, why the hell are they supposed to evaluate the level of repentance of a sinner, especially since they cannot read hearts. No human can.

The justice systems of the most developed lands is not perfect, and yet they hold hearings where the public can attend, with an attorney/barrister and prosecutor, witnesses, judges, jury, etc. Yet, the elders who have no professional training to serve in those capacities are supposed to reach a decision that represents Jehovah's will. And based on their decision you will be shunned for life by friends and family.

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Daily Text for February 28, 2013 !!! ENJOY !!!!!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

thursday, february 28. jehovah will make known who belongs to him.-num.

16:5. korah lost sight of the fact that jehovah was directing the nation of israel and consequently failed to show loyalty to those whom god was using.

how much wiser it would have been for korah to wait on jehovah for a clearer understanding or for adjustments if those were really needed.

alecholmesthedetective

You know,

"Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying: 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses. 3 Therefore all the things they tell YOU, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but do not perform. 4 They bind up heavy loads and put them upon the shoulders of men, but they themselves are not willing to budge them with their finger. 5 All the works they do they do to be viewed by men; for they broaden the [scripture-containing] cases that they wear as safeguards, and enlarge the fringes [of their garments]. 6 They like the most prominent place at evening meals and the front seats in the synagogues, 7 and the greetings in the marketplaces and to be called Rabbi by men. 8 But YOU, do not YOU be called Rabbi, for one is YOUR teacher, whereas all YOU are brothers. 9 Moreover, do not call anyone YOUR father on earth, for one is YOUR Father, the heavenly One. 10 Neither be called ‘leaders,’ for YOUR Leader is one, the Christ. 11 But the greatest one among YOU must be YOUR minister. 12 Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted." — Matthew 23:1-12

The GB should read their own bible more.