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  Markan priority and the synoptic gospels

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this might be a question for leolaia, but i noticed in researching the gospel of mark this week that the dates the wtbts gives for the writing of the other synoptic gospels does not seem to agree with most new testament scholars.. the all scripture book gives the following dates:.

  matthew: writing completed: c. 41 c.e.mark: writing completed: c. 6065 c.e.luke: writing completed: c. 5658 c.e.this would put mark as the last of the three synoptic gospels to be written, and therefore the wtbts does not adhere to the markan priority hypothesis.. wikipedia states that: "the theory of markan priority is today accepted by the majority of new testament scholars".. .

  is there a good reason why the wtbts dates the synoptic gospels in that order?how can they date matthew and luke so early?is it merely because the wtbts rejects the possibility of a "q" source, and possibly even the idea of collusion between the writers altogether?or is it because many scholars put the writings of luke and matthew after the destruction of jerusalem, meaning the "prophecies" of destruction became historical accounts of past events by the time they were written?

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  soontobe

  Interestingly Iraeneus also says that Jesus died of old age and not at 30 years.

  He did not mean that in a literally, chronological sense.

  Its funny on of the grand pillars of christian doctors and history has his facts totally wrong.

  No, he had his facts in agreement with the other sources on the literal age of Jesus. His point was that Jesus encompassed all the ages of human life in his span of time in this world, and that he was between the age of 30 and 50--old enough to be "of age" to act as a teacher.

  Ireneaus knew what the written Gospels said. He was one of the first to name them as being the four recognized as canonical in later times.

  The Gospels could not possibly be either more or less in number than they are. Since there are four zones of the world in which we live, and four principal winds, while the Church is spread over all the earth, and the pillar and foundation of the Church is the gospel, and the Spirit of life, it fittingly has four pillars, everywhere breathing out incorruption and revivifying men. From this it is clear that the Word, the artificer of all things, being manifested to men gave us the gospel, fourfold in form but held together by one Spirit.

  That's from the same work you referred to: Against Heresies.
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  Deepest undersea vents discovered by UK team

  by cantleave in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just read the book, life ascending by nick lane, which discusses the possibility of luca originating in alkaline hydrothermal vents.

  then this morning i heard about this story.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21520404.

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  soontobe

  I hear MITx is good too..but I haven't yet used it.

  EDIT: Sorry, that's EDx:

  https://www.edx.org/
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  Deepest undersea vents discovered by UK team

  by cantleave in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just read the book, life ascending by nick lane, which discusses the possibility of luca originating in alkaline hydrothermal vents.

  then this morning i heard about this story.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21520404.

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  soontobe

  Haha. Cofty and I crossed posts!
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  Deepest undersea vents discovered by UK team

  by cantleave in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just read the book, life ascending by nick lane, which discusses the possibility of luca originating in alkaline hydrothermal vents.

  then this morning i heard about this story.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21520404.

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  soontobe

  The Khan Academy has some good videos on cellular metabolism, including the Krebs cycle:

  https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/cellular-respiration/v/krebs---citric-acid-cycle
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  It Takes a B.A. to Find a Job as a File Clerk

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it takes a b.a.

  to find a job as a file clerk.

  by catherine rampell | new york times wed, feb 20, 2013 10:52 am est.

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  soontobe

  Bachelor's degrees for entry level jobs?

  This is just more evidence of the devaluation of a college education, and of a bubble in higher education.
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  Tim Tebow CANCELS Speaking at First Baptist Church in Dallas

  by RubaDub in

  1. social
  2. current

  looks like the pressure was on tebow not to go to that dallas church.. pastor robert jeffress, head of the 11,000 member church, has called islam and mormonism "religions from the pit of hell" and "you can't be saved by being a jew.

  " he also has said that gays should not be allowed in the military since "70% of the gays have aids.

  " regarding president obama, he stated that electing obama to a second term would "lead to the rise of the anit-christ.".

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  I wonder if RubaDub googles everyone he deals with.
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  Cold Fusion Update: NASA

  by metatron in

  1. jw
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  http://climate.nasa.gov/news/864?goback=.gmp_4132340.gde_4132340_member_214671553.

  yup, nasa.

  talking about cold fusion.

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  soontobe

  What is the point of your comment, DATA-DOG?
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  Catholic Conclave of 117 Cardinals to meet on new Pope, March 15-17

  by designs in

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  2. current

  we like to see the similarities in the wt.

  and catholic religions.

  what are your views on the election of the new pope..

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  soontobe

  Crusted in smoke and tradition.

  History and tradition unites us to those who came before over many centuries, and passed on, unites us to those who will come after us. It is one of the great things about the church. The WT has none of this.

  Let's hope they pick a (relatively) young one this time.

  The youngest person being floated as a contender is Tagle from the Phillipines. He is 55.

  No one else is younger than 63 from those considered papabile that I've seen. That said, they usually get it wrong. No one expected JPII.
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  Cold Fusion Update: NASA

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://climate.nasa.gov/news/864?goback=.gmp_4132340.gde_4132340_member_214671553.

  yup, nasa.

  talking about cold fusion.

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  soontobe

  You are in error. I work in technology, quite a bit in the energy sector. They are racing to get something new.

  Whoever successfully markets something like this would be rich beyond the dreams of avarice.
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  Markan priority and the synoptic gospels

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this might be a question for leolaia, but i noticed in researching the gospel of mark this week that the dates the wtbts gives for the writing of the other synoptic gospels does not seem to agree with most new testament scholars.. the all scripture book gives the following dates:.

  matthew: writing completed: c. 41 c.e.mark: writing completed: c. 6065 c.e.luke: writing completed: c. 5658 c.e.this would put mark as the last of the three synoptic gospels to be written, and therefore the wtbts does not adhere to the markan priority hypothesis.. wikipedia states that: "the theory of markan priority is today accepted by the majority of new testament scholars".. .

  is there a good reason why the wtbts dates the synoptic gospels in that order?how can they date matthew and luke so early?is it merely because the wtbts rejects the possibility of a "q" source, and possibly even the idea of collusion between the writers altogether?or is it because many scholars put the writings of luke and matthew after the destruction of jerusalem, meaning the "prophecies" of destruction became historical accounts of past events by the time they were written?

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  soontobe

  Like I said, 8 is an abrupt end, so maybe the original ending from the emd of the scroll is lost. In that case, it makes little sense to talk about omissions, since we don't know what the original included

  Anyway, there is also Mark 14:28, which is a foreshadowing of the resurrected Jesus in Galilee.

  It's an interesting speculation you have mp regarding "risen," but it's still speculation.