Sounds about right to me, jgnat.
soontobe
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North Korea - U.S - War ?
by *lost* inthings look to be hotting up here.
scary.. what are the chances of it all kicking off ?.
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soontobe
I'd like to point out that, even in the West, the age of sexual consent was as young as 10 not all that long ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent#History_and_social_attitudes
That seems abhorrent to us today.
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EASTER QUIZ: Where is the missing prophecy Jesus fulfilled?
by Terry insince today is celebrated by christians all over the world as easter sunday.... here is sort of a puzzle to solve--if you are interested in things such as this.. .
we begin with luke 24:46. we have a claim being made about a prophecy.. speaking to his disciples on the night of his alleged resurrection, he said, "thus it is written and thus it was necessary for the christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day.
" that the resurrection of christ on the third day was prophesied in the scriptures was claimed also by the apostle paul in 1 corinthians 15:3-4: "for i delivered to you first of all that which i also received: that christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
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soontobe
Looks like Ding and PSac have answered Terry's challenge.
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North Korea - U.S - War ?
by *lost* inthings look to be hotting up here.
scary.. what are the chances of it all kicking off ?.
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soontobe
Wouldn't the north combine w the south for a greater korea?
Why would the Chinese allow that?
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North Korea - U.S - War ?
by *lost* inthings look to be hotting up here.
scary.. what are the chances of it all kicking off ?.
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soontobe
Today, it is being reported that Kim Yung Jr. has likened the United States vulnerability to a "boiled pumpkin".
Glander, we cancelled the scheduled missile defense expansion on the West Coast in 2009. We didn't need to worry so much once the Lightworker had assumed the helm, right? Peace on earth and good will among men!
Now the Administration has flipped and is bringing the expansion back, but we'll now have to wait years for it to be operational. Had it not been cancelled, it would have been operational right now. Heaven forbid, but here's hoping it isn't something we'll end up needing.
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Unemployment is down, but why did America set a record 47.8 million on food stamps?
by moshe inin the usa a new record was set on food stamp enrollments, which seems ironic.
you would think as unemployment drops , food stamp usage would be dropping, too.
maybe those government unemployment numbers are fake numbers.
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soontobe
With that board stroke you and Moshe are talking about my husband and I. You never say some. You dont even give a percentage. All recipients are on the undeserved take so you would have us believe. I still live this. It's still close. My husband recently had a doctor who would not look over my husand's medical records, told my husband it was all in his head and had my husband kicked out of the medical group and put my husand's SSDI application in danger of denial again. Thank goodness we were able to reverse it and got my husband another doctor.
I take this all very personal because I lived it and am still living it. You are talking about me and my husband! There are folks on this very board who are on SSDI and even welfare (or had been) and you are talking about them also. And you painfully don't know what you're talking about cuz you haven't lived it.
Like Moshe said:
The con artists ruin it for the folks who do deserve disability benefits. Nothing new about that.
No has accused you of anything, so no need to get so defensive. No one is talking about legitimate recipients who truly cannot work.
If you can't talk about these things without getting emotional and making it personal, then maybe you should do what you said in your previous post. No one is talking about you but you.
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Unemployment is down, but why did America set a record 47.8 million on food stamps?
by moshe inin the usa a new record was set on food stamp enrollments, which seems ironic.
you would think as unemployment drops , food stamp usage would be dropping, too.
maybe those government unemployment numbers are fake numbers.
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soontobe
California happens to have the highest population. And highest GDP.
California does not have 30% of the population, or 30% of national gdp. It has roughly 12% of each.
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Unemployment is down, but why did America set a record 47.8 million on food stamps?
by moshe inin the usa a new record was set on food stamp enrollments, which seems ironic.
you would think as unemployment drops , food stamp usage would be dropping, too.
maybe those government unemployment numbers are fake numbers.
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soontobe
No one is talking personally about your husband, or you, or your children, Mrs. J. No one is denying legitimate cases exist.
We are talking about an aggregate problem involving millions of people. The population is not more physically disabled, overall, than it was decades ago. Quite the opposite. Yet the numbers receiving benefits are skyrocketing.
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Unemployment is down, but why did America set a record 47.8 million on food stamps?
by moshe inin the usa a new record was set on food stamp enrollments, which seems ironic.
you would think as unemployment drops , food stamp usage would be dropping, too.
maybe those government unemployment numbers are fake numbers.
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soontobe
Unemployment is down, but why did America set a record 47.8 million on food stamps?
Unwilling to Work; 25% in Hale County AL Collect Disability, 14 Million Nationwide; A Simple Solution
A NPR report "Unfit For Work" notes the startling rise in those on disability. Here are some interesting facts from the article.
- Every month 14 million Americans receive a disability check.
- In 1961 the leading cause of disability was heart disease and strokes, totaling 25.7% of cases. Back pain was 8.3% of cases.
- In 2011 the leading cause of disability was a hard to disprove back pain, totaling 33.8% of cases. The second leading cause was an equally difficult to disprove "mental illness" at 19.2%. Strokes and heart disease fell to 10.6%.
- In West Virginia, a whopping 9% of the population collects disability checks. In Arkansas, 8.2% are on disability, and in Alabama and Kentucky, 8.1% collect disability. In Alaska, Hawaii, and Utah, the figure is 2.9%.
- In Hale County Alabama 1 in 4 receive disability checks.
- One thing nearly every case in Hale County Alabama has in common is Dr. Perry Timberlake who defines disability in a rather creative way.
- Those on Supplemental Security Income, a program for children and adults who are both poor and disabled is nearly seven times larger than 30 years ago.
- Once people go onto disability, they almost never go back to work. Fewer than 1 percent of those who were on the federal program for disabled workers at the beginning of 2011 have returned to the workforce.
Children on Disability
How Easy is it to Get Disability?
Hale county's Dr. Timberlake asks a simple question to all his patients. "What grade did you finish?" If you claim "back pain" and do not have a degree, Timberlake believes you are disabled.
The Disability Deal
Getting disability seems easy enough in some states, and especially easy in Hale County Alabama. But is disability better than minimum wage? The answer is yes. NPR author Chana Joffe-Walt explains:People who leave the workforce and go on disability qualify for Medicare, the government health care program that also covers the elderly. They also get disability payments from the government of about $13,000 a year. This isn't great. But if your alternative is a minimum wage job that will pay you at most $15,000 a year, and probably does not include health insurance, disability may be a better option.
Parents Force Kids to Underachieve
Going on disability means you will not work, you will not get a raise, you will not get whatever meaning people get from work. Going on disability means, assuming you rely only on those disability payments, you will be poor for the rest of your life. That's the deal. And it's a deal 14 million Americans have signed up for.
Disability has become a de facto welfare program for people without a lot of education or job skills.
Joffe-Walt explains the special plight of kids.When you are an adult applying for disability you have to prove you cannot function in a "work-like setting." When you are a kid, a disability can be anything that prevents you from progressing in school.
Clinton Ends Welfare As We Know It
Jahleel's mom wants him to do well in school. But her livelihood depends on Jahleel struggling in school. This tension only increases as kids get older. One mother told me her teenage son wanted to work, but she didn't want him to get a job because if he did, the family would lose its disability check.
Kids should be encouraged to go to school. Kids should want to do well in school. Parents should want their kids to do well in school. Kids should be confident their parents can provide for them regardless of how they do in school. Kids should become more and more independent as they grow older and hopefully be able to support themselves at around age 18.
The disability program stands in opposition to every one of these aims.
In 1996 Bill Clinton signed a welfare reform act, that he proclaimed to be the "End of Welfare As We Know It". It was. People moved off welfare on to even easier to get disability programs.
Part of Clinton's welfare reform plan pushed states to get people on welfare into jobs, partly by making states pay a much larger share of welfare costs.
The incentive "worked" using the term loosely. Welfare rolls shrank but disability rolls soared.
Welfare Costs States Money Disability Doesn'tA person on welfare costs a state money. That same resident on disability doesn't cost the state a cent, because the federal government covers the entire bill for people on disability. So states can save money by shifting people from welfare to disability. And the Public Consulting Group is glad to help.
Disability Fraud
PCG is a private company that states pay to comb their welfare rolls and move as many people as possible onto disability. "What we're offering is to work to identify those folks who have the highest likelihood of meeting disability criteria," Pat Coakley, who runs PCG's Social Security Advocacy Management team, told me.
The company has an office in eastern Washington state that's basically a call center, full of headsetted women in cubicles who make calls all day long to potentially disabled Americans, trying to help them discover and document their disabilities:
"The high blood pressure, how long have you been taking medications for that?" one PCG employee asked over the phone the day I visited the company. "Can you think of anything else that's been bothering you and disabling you and preventing you from working?"
The PCG agents help the potentially disabled fill out the Social Security disability application over the phone. And by help, I mean the agents actually do the filling out.
There's a reason PCG goes to all this trouble. The company gets paid by the state every time it moves someone off of welfare and onto disability. In recent contract negotiations with Missouri, PCG asked for $2,300 per person. For Missouri, that's a deal -- every time someone goes on disability, it means Missouri no longer has to send them cash payments every month. For the nation as a whole, it means one more person added to the disability rolls.
Who is making the case for the other side? Who is defending the government's decision to deny disability?
Nobody.
And that in a nutshell explains soaring disability roles and massive fraud.
Disability fraud also makes a joke out of reported unemployment numbers. If you have a disability, you are no longer in the workforce.
Not in Labor Force With a DisabilityI would love to show data pre-recession. Unfortunately, the data only goes back to mid-2008. We can see however, that nearly 23 million Americans are not in the labor force because of "disabilities".
I suggest "fraud" is more like it.
Curious BLS Numbers
Here's the curious thing: 14 million collect disability, but the BLS says 22.726 million are not in the labor force (not working), because of disabilities.
What are the other 8.726 million doing? Is the BLS inflating disability numbers making the unemployment rate absurdly low, or are states doing that poor a job getting people off welfare and on to federal government disability programs? Some of both?
Regardless, we need to stop this madness.
Simple Solution
One easy way to eliminate some of the fraud would be to put someone in charge of making a case for the other side. No, we do not need new Federal programs. All we need do is " Un-end Welfare as We Know It ".
If states had any incentive to stop disability fraud, we would not have so much of it. Make states responsible for a large portion of disability claims just as they are for welfare, and the number of people collecting disability will collapse.
I have written many times about disability fraud, its relation to the unemployment rate, and its relation to expiring unemployment benefits. Inquiring minds may wish to consider some Disability Fraud Examples . -
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Unemployment is down, but why did America set a record 47.8 million on food stamps?
by moshe inin the usa a new record was set on food stamp enrollments, which seems ironic.
you would think as unemployment drops , food stamp usage would be dropping, too.
maybe those government unemployment numbers are fake numbers.
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soontobe
To be able to get SSDI once the application has been filed one has to be able to show and prove that one is unable to work.
Riiiiight. There's a whole legal industry that has sprung up to "prove" inability to work.