I don't want to be too rude; these men have watched me grow up. Although I cannot agree with how they are going about things, I would like to think that they hold high esteem for me.
magotan
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JC was formed, without even letting me know!?
by magotan inno one will take my intent to da or df seriously.
they called me again (three brothers this time) and asked me to meet with them.
i had no intention of doing so....simply told them there was nothing to talk about.. .
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JC was formed, without even letting me know!?
by magotan inno one will take my intent to da or df seriously.
they called me again (three brothers this time) and asked me to meet with them.
i had no intention of doing so....simply told them there was nothing to talk about.. .
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magotan
I didn't go, mostly because they had already called after it had started! The tone was of love, so I did feel a bit emotional, but there's literally nothing to say.
They want me to fail, and it's honestly it's a sick fantasy of theirs I have no intention of realizing.
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JC was formed, without even letting me know!?
by magotan inno one will take my intent to da or df seriously.
they called me again (three brothers this time) and asked me to meet with them.
i had no intention of doing so....simply told them there was nothing to talk about.. .
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magotan
No one will take my intent to DA or DF seriously. They called me again (three brothers this time) and asked me to meet with them. I had no intention of doing so....simply told them there was nothing to talk about.
So I finally uttered the sentence "I do not wish to be associated as being one of Jehovah's Witnesses". They asked why, and I wouldn't answer. I told them I loved them, and since I'm actually at school trying to do HW, I hung up the phone.
They want me to sit down and talk. I feel really bad, but there is nothing I can say. If I don't agree, I'm attacking their faith. It's all or nothing with them. I feel bad that maybe I didn't give my parents (not my brothers) an explanation, but honestly, everytime I tried, no one listened. I'm sorry if I made them cry, I'm sorry if I hurt their feelings. But I can't live my life this way. I can't go along with an organization that is so...destructive. -
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POLL: How long did you remain a JW from point of baptism to leaving the KH
by Terry ini was baptised --1963. left in 1978. fifteen years.
pre-baptism, another 5 years.
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Born in.
Baptized at 16.
Left at 19.
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DFing....Human Rights Violation and DEFAMATION of character?
by Terry in>>>>>>>>>no one can allow human rights to be violated--not even inside the insular confinement of relgious policy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
what are "rights" and where do the stem from?.
human equality.
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magotan
The WT legal dept is very crafty. I'm almost 100% positive this is why they don't actually announce "So and So is Disfellowshipped" or "So and so is Disfellowshippeed for XXXX" so they can avoid lawsuits like this.
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Found out I'm a bit of a catalyst among my local JW youth....
by magotan inso i have been a bit of a catalyst among the jw youth in my local area.
since my family was fairly well known, me coming out so publically and seeing the reactions among the people and my subsequent forced disassociation from the church has made a lot of young people ask questions.
one of my old friends broke a lot of rules (and caught shit for it) for being really good friends with a gay guy we both mutually know.
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magotan
So I have been a bit of a catalyst among the JW youth in my local area. Since my family was fairly well known, me coming out so publically and seeing the reactions among the people and my subsequent forced disassociation from the church has made a lot of young people ask questions. One of my old friends broke a lot of rules (and caught shit for it) for being really good friends with a gay guy we both mutually know. She's always supported him in his sexuality, but when I came out, she refused to think about it. She's not sure what to make of it. It's making a lot of people think, and they don't like it.
I'm kinda proud, honestly.
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my worst fears were realized
by magotan inim on my phone, so im really limited.
i came out to my family about my doubts and my sexuality.
shit hit the fan.
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magotan
They can get me for apostacy. Also, they had another brother call and confirm my desire to not be a JW. (which means there are two witnesses)
I guess its official, then.
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my worst fears were realized
by magotan inim on my phone, so im really limited.
i came out to my family about my doubts and my sexuality.
shit hit the fan.
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magotan
interesting. They called me a few mins after I didn't show up....i simply told them I love them, but nothing is going to stop me from doing what Im going to do.
I guess this means Im not a JW anymore.
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my worst fears were realized
by magotan inim on my phone, so im really limited.
i came out to my family about my doubts and my sexuality.
shit hit the fan.
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magotan
z have an "investigation" to be done by two JW "elders".
I told them I'd meet with them, but I have no interest in doing so. Should I call them and say "I like boys, will probably date and or sleep with one in the near future, and I think this religion is a sham that abuses it's members and steals their lives." That statement would put me out.
I think my mother and father wanted me to stay at home because it would be an excuse to interact with me, but I would not really be allowed to live my life. By leaving, I've spared them essentially shunning by proxy (since my dad isn't an Elder in the congregation anymore, he can't really "break the rules") by having me in their house. But of the same token, now they HAVE to shun me if they want to remain in good standing in the congregation.
I feel like I have nothing really to say to them; their "Investigation" is to essentially see if I have done any "wrongdoing" or "serious sin" and whether or not they should form a Judicial Committee to put me out. -
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my worst fears were realized
by magotan inim on my phone, so im really limited.
i came out to my family about my doubts and my sexuality.
shit hit the fan.
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magotan
Yeah, I'm OK. I'm in such an emotional wreck right now....
I found a place to stay, and I'm hitting it off pretty well with my roommate.
My mother called me on impulse today. She understands that it's more than just sexual; it's a desire to be with someone you love. But she can't condone. We just sat and hugged and cried. She feels like I'm shutting her out (maybe I am, IDK. I have gotten a new bank account and I'm filing for educational financial indepenendence) and doesn't want me to shut her out of my life. But obviously, I can't stay there if I'm going to "live the homosexual lifestyle". I don't know what to say here. I have my doubts, and obviously, she pretty much dismissed them (the UN scandal) as "apostate lies", but I could tell internally she likely thought about a lot of things.
I'm still not sure if I got kicked out, or if I left. When I told them, I was told that if I wanted to be gay and not a JW, I needed to leave. But I was on the same time told that I needed to stay because I had nowhere else to go. Then I was told that I was "always welcome" but of the same token, they can't condone my lifestyle so I wouldn't be able to stay. I believe cognitive dissonance is the term.