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  Atheism would not appeared if …

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
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  · if religions were immune to division.

  · if scriptures were immune to scientific errors.

  · if religious leaders were immune to hypocrisy.

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  cold steel,

  Your comparison would not make sense because of the following reasons:

  Religion	Science
  Belief in Supernatural	No place for supernatural beliefs
  Has godmen	Does not accept godmen or anybody unquestioningly
  Essence of religion is miracle	No miracle in science
  Based on revelation	Based on Method of Science
  Makes predictions that cannot be tested, as in astrology	Makes testable predictions
  Religion is static – once formed never changes	Science is dynamic – evolves continuously
  In religion, truth represents the opinion of its leaders	In science, truth is not somebody’s opinion. It can be verified, tested and validated.
  No built-in correction	Built-in correction present
  Questioning is not permissible	Questioning is one’s fundamental right
  Godmen have answer for everything	Scientists do not have any hesitation to admit that they don’t know
  Parochial	International
  Divides the people	Unites the people
  Inspired by emotion	Guided by logic
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  Atheism would not appeared if …

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  · if religions were immune to division.

  · if scriptures were immune to scientific errors.

  · if religious leaders were immune to hypocrisy.

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  fukitol,

  Yes I believe that Jesus was a humanist par excellence, otherwise he would not have declared the most revolutionary statement in Mathew 7:21-23 and 21:43. All the exclusive views seem to have been added later by myopic people.
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  Atheism would not appeared if …

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  · if religions were immune to division.

  · if scriptures were immune to scientific errors.

  · if religious leaders were immune to hypocrisy.

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  venus

  I am sorry, heading should have been:

  ATHEISM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN APPEARED IF

  One more thought on the word atheism:

  The word construction of atheism is like the word asexual which means:

  1. without sexual feelings or associations.

  2. (of reproduction) not involving the fusion of gametes.
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  Atheism would not appeared if …

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  · if religions were immune to division.

  · if scriptures were immune to scientific errors.

  · if religious leaders were immune to hypocrisy.

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  venus

  · If religions were immune to division

  · If Scriptures were immune to scientific errors

  · If religious leaders were immune to hypocrisy

  When influence of God was not seen on the believers [which means believers were living without God] some decided to live without (a) God (theos), thus came the word atheism (a + theism).

  That means theists created atheists. And in comparison with theists who mostly followed their parents’ religions, atheists are better because they have thought out life more than someone blindly religious. Interestingly, Jesus did not support even his own supporters (Mathew 7:21-23) because he knew that belief in God is not factor in the last judgment, but God goes by one’s humanistic attitude (Mathew 25:31-36; 8:11, 12)
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  Pretend to support Critical Thinking, but forbid it when directed toward the "leadership"

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this from the latest watchtower article on propaganda:.

  "keep in mind that satan does not want you to think clearly or reason things out well.

  because propaganda “is likely to be most effective,” says one source, “if peo- ple .

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  venus

  Matter is very simple:

  Exposing the clergy of Christendom is right

  Exposing those taking lead withing the org is wrong
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  Did the serpent have legs before the curse?

  by Acluetofindtheuser in

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  genesis 3:14 – “then jehovah god said to the serpent: “because you have done this, you are the cursed one out of all the domestic animals and out of all the wild animals of the field.

  on your belly you will go, and you will eat dust all the days of your life.”.

  the old gb and gb 2.0 differ on this matter.

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  venus

  Genesis and Revelation both are allegorical. Characters are representation of human behavior. For example, hare and tortoise competed. Story literally never happened, yet we come across hare-like people and tortoise-like people around us.

  Similarly, snake represents sin which can communicate with us in any form wherever we are, and yielding to sin brings misery. Once we succumb to sin, then we engage in shifting the blame which shows deep within us we are pure, hence sinning is alien to our nature. Sin destroys the self-respect and makes us feel ashamed.

  Thus if you look behind the details, account would make sense. Literally, it doesn't make sense.
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  Not Inspired, Not Infallible

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it occurred to me this morning while one the train to work that jw's, including my family, use the following weasel phrases to excuse the errors they've made over the years:.

  "god uses imperfect men".

  "jesus didn't say he'd give perfect spiritual food".

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  They convert people exposing the mistakes of clergy. Once converted they won't encourage to expose those taking the lead within the org. If pointed to the responsible ones, they have the standard phrase: "Wait for Jehovah."
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  Why did Satan tempt Eve with a talking snake when he could have materialised as another human to tempt her ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  since the angels that followed satan could take on human form and even have sex and bear offspring to females of earth why would satan not have used this avenue instead of talking through a snake .?

  which really makes no common sense ?.

  why wouldnt eve question how a snake could talk?

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  venus

  Genesis and Revelation both are allegorical. Characters are representation of human behavior. For example, hare and tortoise competed. Story literally never happened, yet we come across hare-like people and tortoise-like people around us.

  Similarly, snake represents sin which can communicate with us in any form wherever we are, and yielding to sin brings misery. Once we succumb to sin, then we engage in shifting the blame which shows deep within us we are pure, hence sinning is alien to our nature. Sin destroys the self-respect and makes us feel ashamed.
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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  Towerwatchman,

  That was a new thought to me: atheism requires omniscience.

  In other words, a person would have to be God to say there is no God—interesting thought!
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  NEW LIGHT Regarding the feet of Iron & Clay. Can someone confirm?

  by pale.emperor in

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  this appeared on my facebook today.

  can anyone confirm if this has official gb bullshit approval?.

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  venus

  Here is an excerpt from The Atlantic by Lane Wallace, which shows why people cling to irrational beliefs even after proofs existing to the contrary:

  “Why do people cling to an opinion even after they are presented with contradictory evidence?” said Lane Wallace. “The easy answer, of course, is simply that people are irrational.” But the way in which they are irrational is telling. In a new study, social science researchers have found that people employ “motivated reasoning to fend off any evidence that their strongly held beliefs are wrong. Many people feel that they are their opinions, and hate to lose arguments; as Vince Lombardi once said, “Every time you lose, you die a little.” So when confronted with new, troubling information, ideologues selectively interpret the facts or use “contorted logic” to make conflicting evidence just go away. In the study, even when presented with “compelling, factual data” from a trusted source, many subjects “still found ways to dismiss it. ” In fact, researchers found that exposing people to contradictory information actually “intensified” their existing beliefs, making them more rigid and entrenched. Needless to say, the findings do not offer much hope of “changing anyone else’s mind with facts or rational discussion.”