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  What criteria does Russia use to label a religion as extremist?

  by sparky1 in

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  check this out on the russian ministry of justice webpage.

  the governing body is going to have to do some fancy footwork to get around this criteria:.

  http://minjust.ru/deyatelnost-v-sfere-nekommercheskih-organizaci/missionerskaya-.

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  No blood-transfusion and exclusiveness are at the root of Moscow’s attempt to ban JWs. Interestingly, these two causes are man-made rather than being firmly rooted in the Bible.

  1) If Jesus’s blood could be used for permanent benefit of the believers, it could not be unscriptural that blood could be used for temporary benefit of the believer.

  2) Jesus was categorically spoke against exclusiveness (Mathew 7:21-23; 25:31-36)

  "The religious organization Jehovah’s Witnesses has been repeatedly warned by courts of law, but it has taken no required measures to eliminate the violations," the Justice Ministry said.
  
  More:
  http://tass.com/world/939781
  
  
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  What criteria does Russia use to label a religion as extremist?

  by sparky1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check this out on the russian ministry of justice webpage.

  the governing body is going to have to do some fancy footwork to get around this criteria:.

  http://minjust.ru/deyatelnost-v-sfere-nekommercheskih-organizaci/missionerskaya-.

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  Inciting hatred (which could be easily interpreted as unchristian, anti-national, divisive ....etc.)
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  Russia - JWs Counterclaim

  by Listener in

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  the witnesses lodged a counterclaim against their lawsuit on the 30 march, 2017.their argument is that the actions of the ministry of justice against them are 'political repressions'.the following link states "in the lawsuit numerous instances are cited testifying to the fact that prosecution of jehovah's witnesses is politically motivated."http://www2.stetson.edu/~psteeves/relnews/170402a.html.

  it is a contradiction to what they have written in their "political neutrality' leaflet which states.

  jehovah’s witnesses do not involve themselves in political issues or governmental affairs.

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  Russian Supreme Court refuses to declare Jehovah's Witnesses victims of repressions

  http://rapsinews.com/judicial_news/20170405/278171927.html
  
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  Russia - JWs Counterclaim

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the witnesses lodged a counterclaim against their lawsuit on the 30 march, 2017.their argument is that the actions of the ministry of justice against them are 'political repressions'.the following link states "in the lawsuit numerous instances are cited testifying to the fact that prosecution of jehovah's witnesses is politically motivated."http://www2.stetson.edu/~psteeves/relnews/170402a.html.

  it is a contradiction to what they have written in their "political neutrality' leaflet which states.

  jehovah’s witnesses do not involve themselves in political issues or governmental affairs.

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  venus

  Drearyweather,

  Just like JWs feel it is right to shun those who disagree with them [which JW leadership are not willing to negotiate under any circumstance], a government too can feel it is right to shun those who disagree with it.
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  Interesting take on John 3:16

  by NikL in

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  the superstar of all scriptures.

  for god so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.. .

  but i just learned something about it.. i try to look at different translations of the bible and the lexham english bible words it a bit different.... 16 for in this way god loved the world, so that he gave his one and only son, in order that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but will have eternal life.

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  God because He is God the Father cannot distinguish between His children--He loves everyone alike. (Deuteronomy 10:17 + Romans 2:11)
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  "There is evidence of a Creator if you just look for it"

  by unsure in

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  (for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).

  “there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.

  many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.

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  unsure,

  Nice thoughts. The fact that scriptures and religions are extremely complicated shows they do not belong to God. The universe being fine-tuned argues for the existence of God, and at the same time suffering argues for the non-existence of God. I feel this has to be so because this is what makes everyone arrive at his own conclusion about God and purpose of life.
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  Who copied who when it comes to the website logo?

  by oppostate in

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  just noticed this very peculiarly uncanny similarity between website logos.did the jw.0rg come first or after--did the wt copy another website's logo?.

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  Even when they preach that Governments belong to Satan, they cannot believe it in their hearts that they really do; hence the urge to copy the Governments of this world surface unknowingly. Hence it is good indication that they copied the logo.
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  Russian BOE - congregations told to stop using the New World Translation

  by OrphanCrow in

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  it appears like the wt's bible is no longer to be used in russia.

  king james version only.

  from this forum: .

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  Whether fake news or not, they have the model in Jesus who said: "Jesus said: If I said something wrong, testify as to what is wrong. But if I spoke the truth, why did you strike me?" (John 18:23)

  When something is true, why do they have to fear anybody in the whole universe—especially if they know that the Almighty is too with them?
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  Job, his loved ones and his servants

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

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  1 corinthians 10:13. no temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind.

  and god is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.

  this verse is in correspondence with 1 cor.10:13 and james 1:13. job will not be tempted beyond what he can bear, and it will not be god tempting him.. then in verse 16, this is being said:.

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  Account teaches nothing because it dishonors God who takes Satan too seriously, hence it has its origin in the mind of human who has such faulty views about God.
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  JW setbacks (such as in Russia) is foretold in the Bible

  by venus in

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  zechariah 11:16 speaks of emergence of a self-styled organization whose specialization is shunning, and it happened in global proportion.

  zechariah 11:17 foretells its consequence: “woe to the idol shepherd … the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up (completely withered, niv), and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.”.

  shunning and being shunned are like two sides of a coin.

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  Zechariah 11:16 speaks of emergence of a self-styled organization whose specialization is shunning, and it happened in global proportion

  Zechariah 11:17 foretells its consequence: “Woe to the idol shepherd … the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up (completely withered, NIV), and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.”

  Shunning and being shunned are like two sides of a coin. If a person wants one side, he must automatically accept the other side also.