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  Do you believe in god?

  by freakyAL in

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  i used to be a staunch believer in god.

  maybe its technology and science advancing so much thats got me doubting idk.

  do you believe in god?

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  We are all fascinated by the thought that ‘I am financially independent, physically independent….’

  Yet if asked “Am I emotionally independent?” we may not because we often dance according to the behavior pattern of others!

  If asked “Am I spiritually independent?” we may not because we may already be conditioned by atheists or religionists. We are all individuals (from the root in + divisible), hence unique which means we should have our own view about God.

  Intelligence (from Latin intelligere) literally means reading between the lines. In other words, it’s all about seeing behind the obvious/events/happening/things and arriving at intuitive discernment; or seeing with third eye. Someone sent you a gift of flower. Seeing only the flower is ordinary seeing, and seeing also the love behind that gift is real seeing. When you see cards arranged as a pyramid you do not see more important aspect of it; yet eyes of your mind can see forces acting in various directions, nullifying each other thus making the pyramid shape possible.

  When you see a seed it is ordinary seeing; but seeing within it also the invisible program in which memories of all the future generations remain protected is real seeing. When you see many farm fields in which only one has cultivation, eyes of your mind would see a cultivator who planted seeds in one but did not do so with rest of the fields. Similarly, when we see various forms of life on earth and rest of the universe barren, our third eye would see a Greater Cultivator who planted seeds of life on earth but did not do so with rest of the universe which highlights the fact that it takes a Cultivator to bring forms of life.

  That means a great Cultivator exists. The fact that He has never spoken to humans shows that He is not interested in our worship! He has given us, in abundance, provisions to enjoy life. But our greed has brought suffering on earth. Should we hold God responsible for this or should bring a needed change in our attitude and make this earth a paradise again! See, some parts of the earth is already like a paradise which means if we want we can make the whole earth a paradise again!
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  Do you believe in god?

  by freakyAL in

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  2. beliefs

  i used to be a staunch believer in god.

  maybe its technology and science advancing so much thats got me doubting idk.

  do you believe in god?

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  Actually the knowledge that whether God exists or not has no bearing on people’s lives because we find all sorts of people among believers. In my life I have seen I have always been reaping according to my thinking, which means God doesn’t have to do anything—everything is automatic.
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  The wonder of scientific research

  by amicabl in

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  this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

  there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

  nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

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  Money rules every aspect of our life--including scientific research
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  School inspection is just like a CO visit.

  by pleaseresearch in

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  so our school has just had the school inspectors in, looking and observing lessons.

  the similarities with a co visit is uncanny.. how well behaved teachers, members of staff and pupils are..

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  If all publishers are true believers, there is no need for CO visit.
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  Do you believe in god?

  by freakyAL in

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  i used to be a staunch believer in god.

  maybe its technology and science advancing so much thats got me doubting idk.

  do you believe in god?

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  The intensity with which people do not believe in the existence of God is proportionate to the intensity of misrepresentation all the religions did. Hence both the groups--atheists and religionists--have nothing to do with the existence of God.
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  Truth is not unattainable

  by venus in

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  seeing corrupt rulers creating war to divert attention of the public, almighty arms industry loving conflicts, religious leaders finding religions as a means for easy income ….etc one may conclude that truth is not attainable.

  yet there is a place where truth remains hidden for the seeker to experience his thrill—in the vocabulary of different languages.. when i was studying in mount holyoke, i had the opportunity to mingle with many foreign students and thus to my surprise came to know certain words are like a treasure of truth in at least one language among the vast reservoir of languages which means you have to continue your search for the truth of one word till you get it through different languages.

  for example, take the word ‘king’ and start seeing the meaning of it in all the languages and you will find it means a person ruling with dynastic root, then suddenly you find in one language, the word ‘king’ is the summarized form of this sentence: “one who brings delight to all of his subjects and keeps them (of various interests) reconciled to each other.” to mention a few other words which my search took me to the truth:.

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  smiddy3 wrote: “What is truth for one person is utter bollocks to another person.”

  That is implied in the OP when I wrote “almighty arms industry loving conflicts” which means we love peace and arms industry hates peace. There are many opinions about truth such as: ‘There is no truth, truth is relative, truth is absolute, truth is God …. etc.’

  Many would say they believe only what can be ascertained by their senses which means experience is the key. But we can be tricked even by our own experience. (1) Lukewarm water would be felt as cold water if you touch it after dipping your finger in hot water; and the same lukewarm water would be felt as warm water if you touch it after dipping your finger in cold water. (2) Senses can sometimes see only half-truth. When you see cards arranged as a pyramid you do not see more important aspect of it—forces acting in various directions, nullifying each other thus making the pyramid shape possible.

  If mind can be tricked by what physical eyes see, how much more it would be tricked when it ventures into the realm of the invisible such as What is before and after this life … What was before Big Bang or God, What is His purpose for us …etc. This explains why we have we have conflicted religions and scriptures which prompt people to say there is no truth, or truth is relative. Yet for an analytical mind truth is not a complicated subject because they find out that there are truths that are relative and there are truths that are absolute. For example, Mike Gallagher declared: “Right and wrong are not relative terms. There are fundamental truths. Evil flourishes, but good men continue to battle it – and win.”
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  Truth is not unattainable

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  seeing corrupt rulers creating war to divert attention of the public, almighty arms industry loving conflicts, religious leaders finding religions as a means for easy income ….etc one may conclude that truth is not attainable.

  yet there is a place where truth remains hidden for the seeker to experience his thrill—in the vocabulary of different languages.. when i was studying in mount holyoke, i had the opportunity to mingle with many foreign students and thus to my surprise came to know certain words are like a treasure of truth in at least one language among the vast reservoir of languages which means you have to continue your search for the truth of one word till you get it through different languages.

  for example, take the word ‘king’ and start seeing the meaning of it in all the languages and you will find it means a person ruling with dynastic root, then suddenly you find in one language, the word ‘king’ is the summarized form of this sentence: “one who brings delight to all of his subjects and keeps them (of various interests) reconciled to each other.” to mention a few other words which my search took me to the truth:.

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  Seeing corrupt rulers creating war to divert attention of the public, almighty arms industry loving conflicts, religious leaders finding religions as a means for easy income ….etc one may conclude that truth is not attainable. Yet there is a place where truth remains hidden for the seeker to experience his thrill—in the vocabulary of different languages.

  When I was studying in Mount Holyoke, I had the opportunity to mingle with many foreign students and thus to my surprise came to know certain words are like a treasure of truth in at least one language among the vast reservoir of languages which means you have to continue your search for the truth of one word till you get it through different languages. For example, take the word ‘king’ and start seeing the meaning of it in all the languages and you will find it means a person ruling with dynastic root, then suddenly you find in one language, the word ‘king’ is the summarized form of this sentence: “one who brings delight to all of his subjects and keeps them (of various interests) reconciled to each other.” To mention a few other words which my search took me to the truth:

  Family = Place where delight results when members get together

  House = Building from which you depart forever

  Son = One who ensures no dishonor happens to his father

  Soul = That which is made of knowledge and acts egoless

  Intelligence = Reading between lines/happenings and arriving at intuitive discernment

  Diabetes = Sweet urine

  Ego = Opposite of construction (egoless = construction)

  Personality = That which is visible on the outside, like a mask on the face

  World = Place where mostly illogicality is abundant and logicality is too rare

  Hell = Me-first attitude

  Heaven = Living in awareness of common origin of all humans.

  Worship = Engaging in something fully focused as happens during dating and courting
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  Biblical gems

  by venus in

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  though the trunk, branches and even most of the leaves of the bible tree make no sense, there are some leaves here and there which are like gems of high value, such as:.

  1) “an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth” often mistaken as the law of retaliation is actually a beautiful foundation of a perfect judicial system because behind the details the essence is that any loss caused should perfectly and proportionately be compensated.

  original writing of this law and its context are not relevant because jesus described them as those being orally transmitted (which makes random additions possible), not written (mathew 5:38-42).

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  David_Jay

  That's interesting.
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  Biblical gems

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  though the trunk, branches and even most of the leaves of the bible tree make no sense, there are some leaves here and there which are like gems of high value, such as:.

  1) “an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth” often mistaken as the law of retaliation is actually a beautiful foundation of a perfect judicial system because behind the details the essence is that any loss caused should perfectly and proportionately be compensated.

  original writing of this law and its context are not relevant because jesus described them as those being orally transmitted (which makes random additions possible), not written (mathew 5:38-42).

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  Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho asked "no one is a sinner by birth" - is that true? What about Psalm 51:5?

  Many have read in various scriptures that we are sinners from birth and heard scriptural characters saying: “The good I wish to do I do not do, but the bad I do not wish to do is what I do. What a wretched person I am!” or “This is the way God has made me” …etc. Reading such things people feel that sin is an inherited tendency—something normal!

  But I would not agree because I find an avalanche of proofs against this. We find variety of people acting/reacting differently in same situation: Some do more righteous acts, some do more sinful acts, and others mix them in varying degrees, one-time sinners changing into saints, one-time saints changing into sinners, some very poor people who refuse to steal, and some very wealthy people who steal in various ways… etc. This shows people choose to act the way they like which means they are not sinners from birth—resulting in all sorts of people from sinless to the sinful ones. Interestingly, even Bible makes many references to some sinless persons who lived in the ancient times (Genesis 5:24; Job 1:8; Psalm 18:23; Ezekiel 14:14; Luke 1:6 …etc.) and human capacity to perform righteousness. (Habakkuk 2:4; Hebrews 10:38).

  If we are not sinners from birth, when does sin arise?

  Our experience shows that beliefs and attitudes are linked. For example, if one truly believes in the principle “one reaps what he sows”, he would not display a casual attitude towards life, but he would think before acting and be alert to do good to others and to avoid doing harm to others as far as possible. That means from beliefs, attitudes are formed; and from attitudes, thoughts are formed; from thoughts, action is produced; from repeated action, tendency and habit are produced which in turn determine one’s destiny. For example, a person steals for first time and he was not caught; then he goes on repeating it and a tendency to steal comes into existence. Similarly, a person chooses to give joy to others and stop giving sorrow to others, and he reaps accordingly which in turn makes him repeat the same and a tendency to do good comes into existence.

  Thus tendency to commit sin/virtue begins from repeated action, not from birth. That means performance of an action and its repetition is result of choice people make. Bible describes king David who unwisely used this faculty of choice. From his palace when he looked down he saw his neighbor, a very beautiful woman, taking bath. Now he had two choices—either to immediately withdraw his eyes and mind and carry on with his duties as king or “to keep on looking at” that scene. Unfortunately, he chose the latter which kindled lust in him, and finally committed adultery with her and took her as his wife after deceitfully killing her husband even though he had many wives at that time. (2 Samuel, chapter 11) If he had simply withdrawn his eyes and mind as many have done, no sin would have been committed. (James 1:15)

  If doing vice/virtue is out of choice, then it would mean no one is a sinner from birth, hence we cannot call anyone sinner. A person may sometimes get swelling on his leg and may have limped a few times—but he is never called lame. Similarly, a person may at times slip into selfishness and use his free-will to his own harm or to the harm of others—but this does not make him a sinner because the ability to perform virtuous acts also exists in him. If one’s occasional sinning does not make him a sinner, sin of another person such as his parents (immediate or distant) can also never make him a sinner.
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  Biblical gems

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  though the trunk, branches and even most of the leaves of the bible tree make no sense, there are some leaves here and there which are like gems of high value, such as:.

  1) “an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth” often mistaken as the law of retaliation is actually a beautiful foundation of a perfect judicial system because behind the details the essence is that any loss caused should perfectly and proportionately be compensated.

  original writing of this law and its context are not relevant because jesus described them as those being orally transmitted (which makes random additions possible), not written (mathew 5:38-42).

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  zeb,

  You are right--analogy is superb. My point was to highlight looking behind the details and benefiting. When we read the Bible with the conditioned mind we may not benefit much. This is what happened to me till I read: ‘You have control over your thoughts. When you change your thoughts, your life changes!’ (Mathew 5:29; James 1:26; Phil 4:8) This great truth hides behind the those verses. Soon I understood that no one is a sinner by birth; hence Genesis account of original sin was not a historical and all the teachings built on that fiction is also useless.