Sad part of it is that GB will never realize that they are synonym with saints of Christendom
Posts by venus
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4What is the difference ......?
by Phizzy inwhat is the difference between the way the gb are viewed/treated by jw's,even dead gb members, and the way saints are in the rc and orthodox churches etc ?.
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1986- U.S. bombs libya!
by nowwhat? inreagan orders bombing of libyia target's kadaffi.
i vividly remember calling my pioneer buddy "ok this is it get ready for ww3!
" guess what nothing happened.
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venus
Things can take any direction. No one saw Trump coming, yet it happened. In the 80's terrorism was in its infancy, now they are trying for nukes. From where will they get it? Naturally from those countries that have nukes and are sympathizers to them. That means it is time that responsible nations would do something about this, which means countries like Russia, China will oppose that move.
That means things can also spin out of control.
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Russia's Supreme Court is due to resume considering ban on Jehovah's Witness activity on 12 April
by venus inrussia's supreme court is due to resume considering a total ban on jehovah's witness activity on 12 april.
already police in several towns have disrupted their worship.
they have reported intimidation, harassment, and the disruption of worship by law enforcement agents in several towns as a result of the justice ministry's 15 march order summarily suspending most of their activities.
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Russia's Supreme Court is due to resume considering a total ban on Jehovah's Witness activity on 12 April. Already police in several towns have disrupted their worship. A Moscow community's rental of a hall to mark their main annual commemoration was cancelled after an FSB visit.
As Jehovah's Witnesses await a verdict at Russia's Supreme Court in Moscow on whether they will be banned across the country, their communities are already feeling the effects of the Justice Ministry's actions. They have reported intimidation, harassment, and the disruption of worship by law enforcement agents in several towns as a result of the Justice Ministry's 15 March order summarily suspending most of their activities. One community found that its contract on a rented hall in Moscow had been cancelled.
The harassment comes as hearings in the Justice Ministry's attempt to liquidate the Jehovah's Witness Administrative Centre are underway in the Supreme Court. After three days of hearings between 5 and 7 April, Judge Yury Ivanenko adjourned proceedings until 10.00am Moscow time on 12 April. This is the day after the Jehovah's Witnesses main annual commemoration – the Memorial of Christ's Death – on 11 April.
Liquidation, banning suit
The Justice Ministry lodged its suit at the Supreme Court on 15 March, asking that the Administrative Centre be declared an extremist organisation, that it be liquidated, and that all its activities be banned.
On the same day, the Ministry also issued an Order suspending most Jehovah's Witness activities, including all public meetings and the Administrative Centre's financial transactions.http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2271
What brings harm to JWs is not their worship, but their human teaching on blood transfusion: “Jehovah’s Witnesses break the law forbidding “extremism” when its members refuse blood transfusions, Russia’s Justice Ministry said Thursday at a Supreme Court hearing on the question of banning the religious group in the country.”
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-jehovahs-witnesses-ban-case-580227
Hopes are on the wane.
April 6, 2017: “MOSCOW (AP) - Russia's Supreme Court has upheld the decision of a Russian city to ban Jehovah's Witnesses as an extremist group. The decision Thursday came amid proceedings on a Justice Ministry suit to ban the religious organization in Russia altogether.
http://www.whec.com/news/supreme-court-jehovah-witness/4447207/
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If you apply the word love to them, then you will have to ask: “Do words no longer need meaning?”
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What criteria does Russia use to label a religion as extremist?
by sparky1 incheck this out on the russian ministry of justice webpage.
the governing body is going to have to do some fancy footwork to get around this criteria:.
http://minjust.ru/deyatelnost-v-sfere-nekommercheskih-organizaci/missionerskaya-.
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No blood-transfusion and exclusiveness are at the root of Moscow’s attempt to ban JWs. Interestingly, these two causes are man-made rather than being firmly rooted in the Bible.
1) If Jesus’s blood could be used for permanent benefit of the believers, it could not be unscriptural that blood could be used for temporary benefit of the believer.
2) Jesus was categorically spoke against exclusiveness (Mathew 7:21-23; 25:31-36)
"The religious organization Jehovah’s Witnesses has been repeatedly warned by courts of law, but it has taken no required measures to eliminate the violations," the Justice Ministry said.
More:
http://tass.com/world/939781
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What criteria does Russia use to label a religion as extremist?
by sparky1 incheck this out on the russian ministry of justice webpage.
the governing body is going to have to do some fancy footwork to get around this criteria:.
http://minjust.ru/deyatelnost-v-sfere-nekommercheskih-organizaci/missionerskaya-.
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Inciting hatred (which could be easily interpreted as unchristian, anti-national, divisive ....etc.)
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Russia - JWs Counterclaim
by Listener inthe witnesses lodged a counterclaim against their lawsuit on the 30 march, 2017.their argument is that the actions of the ministry of justice against them are 'political repressions'.the following link states "in the lawsuit numerous instances are cited testifying to the fact that prosecution of jehovah's witnesses is politically motivated."http://www2.stetson.edu/~psteeves/relnews/170402a.html.
it is a contradiction to what they have written in their "political neutrality' leaflet which states.
jehovah’s witnesses do not involve themselves in political issues or governmental affairs.
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Russian Supreme Court refuses to declare Jehovah's Witnesses victims of repressions
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Russia - JWs Counterclaim
by Listener inthe witnesses lodged a counterclaim against their lawsuit on the 30 march, 2017.their argument is that the actions of the ministry of justice against them are 'political repressions'.the following link states "in the lawsuit numerous instances are cited testifying to the fact that prosecution of jehovah's witnesses is politically motivated."http://www2.stetson.edu/~psteeves/relnews/170402a.html.
it is a contradiction to what they have written in their "political neutrality' leaflet which states.
jehovah’s witnesses do not involve themselves in political issues or governmental affairs.
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Drearyweather,
Just like JWs feel it is right to shun those who disagree with them [which JW leadership are not willing to negotiate under any circumstance], a government too can feel it is right to shun those who disagree with it.
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Interesting take on John 3:16
by NikL inthe superstar of all scriptures.
for god so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.. .
but i just learned something about it.. i try to look at different translations of the bible and the lexham english bible words it a bit different.... 16 for in this way god loved the world, so that he gave his one and only son, in order that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but will have eternal life.
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God because He is God the Father cannot distinguish between His children--He loves everyone alike. (Deuteronomy 10:17 + Romans 2:11)
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"There is evidence of a Creator if you just look for it"
by unsure in(for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).
“there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.
many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.
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unsure,
Nice thoughts. The fact that scriptures and religions are extremely complicated shows they do not belong to God. The universe being fine-tuned argues for the existence of God, and at the same time suffering argues for the non-existence of God. I feel this has to be so because this is what makes everyone arrive at his own conclusion about God and purpose of life.