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  Whether Jesus was a historical figure or not matters not

  by venus in

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  when i suffered some loss what jesus said came to my mind: “if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also.” (mathew 5:40) principle behind this statement made flash to me: ‘here shirt is only a symbol of material things/comfort.

  if you suffer a loss, have the mind-set that i have no problem even if i suffer some greater loss,’ and my worry immediately disappeared.

  whether jesus was a historical figure or not matters not if what he (supposedly) said happens to be of great practical help..

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  venus

  scratchme1010,

  I was trying to show that apostate can understand the Bible better
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  Whether Jesus was a historical figure or not matters not

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i suffered some loss what jesus said came to my mind: “if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also.” (mathew 5:40) principle behind this statement made flash to me: ‘here shirt is only a symbol of material things/comfort.

  if you suffer a loss, have the mind-set that i have no problem even if i suffer some greater loss,’ and my worry immediately disappeared.

  whether jesus was a historical figure or not matters not if what he (supposedly) said happens to be of great practical help..

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  venus

  When I suffered some loss what Jesus said came to my mind: “If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also.” (Mathew 5:40) Principle behind this statement made flash to me: ‘Here shirt is only a symbol of material things/comfort. If you suffer a loss, have the mind-set that I have no problem even if I suffer some greater loss,’ and my worry immediately disappeared.

  Whether Jesus was a historical figure or not matters not if what he (supposedly) said happens to be of great practical help.
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  Does Anyone Wish Satan Were Real?

  by Rainbow_Troll in

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  i left the memorial tonight with a renewed antagonism towards all that is good and holy.

  i doubt the existence of satan, but i had to recite two "our father who wert in heaven..." prayers just to feel cleansed of the miasma of sanctity i had just endured for over an hour!.

  it's times like these when i wish that there really were a devil that i could sell my soul to in exchange for his support in corrupting as many christians away from their faith as i possibly can.

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  Satan was invented by religions with a commercial intent.
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  Pray for all people, especially our leaders? That's what the bible says

  by TTWSYF in

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  from 1timothy chapt 2. the first to timothy.

  2 first of all, then, i urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be made concerning all sorts of men, 2 concerning kings and all those who are in high positions,*+ so that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with complete godly devotion and seriousness.+ 3 this is fine and acceptable in the sight of our savior, god,+ 4 whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved+ and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.

  5 for there is one god,+ and one mediator+ between god and men,+ a man, christ jesus,+ 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all*+—this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.

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  This is a clear statement that says Rulers are "God's servants" (Romans 13:7), not of Satan as JW teaching says.
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  Memorial - from disgusted to feeling sorry

  by UBM101 in

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  i went with my husband tonight for the first time.

  it was pretty appalling how they lied about the 144k and everyone else.

  then passing the wine and bread for nothing.

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  When i was just following the crowd, I attended it as others did only to realize later that this is nothing but cannibalism in another form and name.
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  You will be with me in Paradise

  by AmyWatson916 in

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  i'm reading a book called, "what to do when they knock".

  it points out that on page 36 of the 2014 "what does the bible really teach?

  " book jesus promises the criminal, "you will be with me in paradise.

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  venus

  That statement is not found in Mark's gospel which is the first one written. Statement is found in Luke's gospel, and Luke was not a disciple, nor was he present in the site of Jesus's crucifixion. It's likely that statement is a later adoption by someone who had no idea about when Jesus was really resurrected.
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  God never knew Jesus would be killed?

  by venus in

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  jesus gave an illustration with a landowner being the central character:.

  “there was a landowner who planted a vineyard.

  he put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it and built a watchtower.

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  steve2,

  If parable has a central character, what he says as the main intent of his action should necessarily fit with what really happens later. Here we find a father who grossly miscalculated.

  Besides, parable has its origin in God Himself according to Jesus: "I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me." (John 8:28
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  God never knew Jesus would be killed?

  by venus in

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  jesus gave an illustration with a landowner being the central character:.

  “there was a landowner who planted a vineyard.

  he put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it and built a watchtower.

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  David_Jay,

  You got it correctly when you said: "After the death of Jesus, his followers had to develop a way of making his crucifixion appear as if it were "part of the plan" from the beginning."
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  God never knew Jesus would be killed?

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
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  jesus gave an illustration with a landowner being the central character:.

  “there was a landowner who planted a vineyard.

  he put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it and built a watchtower.

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  venus

  To1500,

  You ask: “would you sacrifice your life if you knew you were going to be raised to life in 3 days?”

  When God asks, anybody would do it without any second thought, hence it won’t be sacrifice at all.
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  God never knew Jesus would be killed?

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jesus gave an illustration with a landowner being the central character:.

  “there was a landowner who planted a vineyard.

  he put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it and built a watchtower.

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  Here any sort of interpretation is ruled out because in His message to Judah, God Himself says sacrificial killing of a son is “something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind.”—Jeremiah 7:31